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| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4657 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 33 of 70 30 May 2012 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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COF, you throw out a lot of statements that you assume prefaced with "I suspect" and talk a lot about what perceptions you assume other countries have of Britain and of the U.S.
So I have to ask: how many Italians have you talked to about their perceptions of the U.S. and UK, and of their varieties of spoken English? How many citizens of the other countries whose views you want us to believe that you know? Your ideas have to be coming from somewhere, so tell us, are have you actually had a significant number of interactions with people from those nations about this topic, or are you pulling your assumptions from somewhere else? Edited by tastyonions on 30 May 2012 at 5:45pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| COF Senior Member United States Joined 5823 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English* | Message 34 of 70 30 May 2012 at 5:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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On other forums, I have noticed Italians and other Europeans have a tendency to talk about the US a lot more than the UK and clearly be more influenced by US English than British English. It seems to me that the UK is pretty inconsequential to most Europeans, especially considering it is outside the Euro currency.
Also, I often read El Pais, Le Monde and Le Figaro and rarely do either of those newspapers report UK news, and if they do its usually some feature on the Queen, Kate Middleton or Pippa Middleton. Edited by COF on 30 May 2012 at 5:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jazzboy.bebop Senior Member Norway norwegianthroughnove Joined 5410 days ago 439 posts - 800 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian | Message 35 of 70 30 May 2012 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ha ha ha. COF, for some reason you've highly amused me. Guess that makes me a traitorous Brit. Then again I am emigrating to Norway in August so guess that's no surprise.
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| tiyafeh Pentaglot Newbie Israel Joined 4770 days ago 12 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English, Modern Hebrew*, Portuguese, Spanish, Latin Studies: Biblical Hebrew, Arabic (Written), German, Greek, Aramaic, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 36 of 70 30 May 2012 at 6:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
Really? I don't read Le Monde, but a quick look reveals several news items pertaining to the UK which have nothing at all to do with the Queen, Kate Middleton or Pippa Middleton. I also read El País regularly, and I must say the UK features rather prominently, what with the Gibraltar dispute and all that, which, again, has nothing to do with Kate Middleton, her sister or her mother-in-law (or am I missing something?). As another speaker of RP, I must say I have never been called stuffy, unfriendly and uptight (well, I have, but that has nothing to do with my accent), not in Israel, not in America, not in the Far East and not even in Europe. I'd even say the opposite is true. Also, COF, out of curiosity, what languages do you speak? 7 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4741 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish | Message 37 of 70 30 May 2012 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The Hollywood accent (Western US) is what most people are in touch with.
I'd say that the Midwestern US English (Midwestern: think Columbus rather than Chicago) is not heard much in Europe or Latin America, because we normally don't watch American news or channels like ABC, NBC or FOX which feature newscasters with a bland Midland accent (Midland = from Omaha to Columbus, where they speak with a '"General American accent''). In sitcoms, soap operas, movies, it is the Hollywood/Californian accent which imposed itself as the ''new standard ''. You don't hear bland US newscasters' accent in Hollywood production. It's more like 75% Californian + 25 % New York City /New Jersey accent. The Midwestern accent of Chicagoan type is along with the Southern US accents, the accent you hear the least in Hollywood movies. Most Chicago-born actors acquire a Californian accent (I guess accent coaches have something to do with it). In that sitcom''Married with Children'' all actors sounded Californian (even though the show was set in Chicago...and the daughter [Christina Applegate] had a strong Valley girl accent; no way you can hear a Valley girl accent in Chicago in real life LOL ). Edited by Camundonguinho on 30 May 2012 at 6:58pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sebed Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4731 days ago 12 posts - 29 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Korean, Esperanto | Message 38 of 70 30 May 2012 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
An apology wouldn't go amiss here, sir. You're doing fine work at perpetuating the American stereotype. I'm wholly unimpressed. No class, no knowledge of the facts, and clearly a huge interest in making the US sound as great as possible, whilst making the UK sound as bad as possible. Keep your posts researched and bias-free or don't post on this forum. 6 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5407 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean | Message 39 of 70 30 May 2012 at 6:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
It would appear he's quite fluent in Trollese. 12 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4741 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish | Message 40 of 70 30 May 2012 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Even in the UK, the American accent is more popular in pop music.
The only ''stubborn'' pop singer from the UK with a British accent is Sophie Ellis-Bextor (she always sings in her strong Essex accent; to most people not familiar with this accent her accent sounds like RP, but it's not). Even in Baku (Eurovision Song Contest), the British representative sang with/in an American(-wannabe) accent. Edited by Camundonguinho on 30 May 2012 at 7:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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