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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 33 of 35 22 July 2012 at 9:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hehe so we're more similar than I thought :)
I personally think the optimal amount of grammar study and when to do it depends greatly on the language. So if you understand 80% despite not having had much grammar study, you may want to study some more grammar in order to improve your output. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4844 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 34 of 35 22 July 2012 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | ||
Seconded! Language learning is neither a race nor a competition. As everything important in life, it just takes time. I love that proverb: "Grass doesn't grow faster, if you pull it." True story. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4701 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 35 of 35 22 July 2012 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yep, I'd say you need to just somehow get the bigger picture of grammar (let's ignore vocab for the moment) to understand things, but details for output.
But grammar is finite - you spend a while with it, then you're done. I'm not yet there in Japanese. I'm likely around the 70-75% mark (actually, 90% in some contexts, 50% in others), and my grammar studies are not done yet (because I tried to make the language live by using it a lot), so I have to still work for it to get better. I did a LOT of grammar upfront, which was great to express myself with limited vocab, tho, which in turn made everything more fun, and I'm still a bit in a hurry to finally crouch out of the dark intermediate-woods. It's already fun, even though I sound like an idiot sometimes. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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