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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh	Message 73 of 92 05 September 2012 at 7:08pm \| IP Logged
	I can confirm lazy. :-))) 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 74 of 92 06 September 2012 at 3:57am \| IP Logged
	Today I did a bit more digging about and discovered wonderful, wonderful things. For one, there are some people who do "Let's Play" videos in Swedish. This quite excites me as it's an opportunity to listen to Swedish on a subject I care about. Let's Play Also found an (unfinished?) translation of Chrono Trigger in Swedish. Here's a video of the translation. It was also apparently available in Finnish, French, Russian... And finally, I found this Russian writer who posts some of his work online. I found him, ironically enough, while googling "Swedish Fan Translations." He wrote the Metro 2033 series, so some Russians here might be familiar with him. Played more Pokémon Silver today and saw the word "glasögon" which I am guessing means glasses. A shame; I spent a good few seconds thinking "there was never a man with glass eyes in the original Silver..." I've decided to follow tarvos's advice and just play as many Swedish games as I can. There are a few fan translations of the Final Fantasy games (though I am not a huge fan of them, they do appear to have a lot of text which is good), so I have quite a few games in my catalog. They wanted native speaker materials - they got them. My book should also be arriving Friday. It's time to step my languages into high gear. I got a book from the library with a few Russian short stories and while the vocabulary seems out of my league, I'm going to try and get through one of the shorter stories and write down all the unknown words, then look them up. Yeah, the dictionary method. Poisonous, toxic, whatever other synonym you expected; textbooks will only get you so far, correct? But I should still learn all the vocabulary in the multiple Russian courses I have. Some of it is a bit touristy, but I think I'd be a little ashamed if I could end up reading Pravda but was unable to order some borscht. Basically, I realized that what I was doing was not sufficient for either Russian or Swedish. I need to disconnect myself from the internet at home and read in Russian or Swedish at school whenever possible. I have free time; may as well use it for something productive. Today will be the beginning of kicking it into high gear. 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 75 of 92 12 September 2012 at 3:32am \| IP Logged
	My Håkan Nesser book arrived, but I think I might actually have to put off Swedish for a while. I've been toying with the idea of taking an Intensive Russian class, but the only one available is Intensive Russian 2. I can't help but wonder if that might be too intensive for me... if it'll get me on the right track for Russian, though, it should be worth it. Going through my Russian textbook for school and writing down all the new words. I've already gotten halfway through the book and I can say that I know most of these words. If this pattern continues, I can state I am at a "low intermediate" level. Been a little distracted from my languages recently - playing Pokemon in Swedish, oddly enough, got me more into Pokemon than Swedish! 1 person has voted this message useful
montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh	Message 76 of 92 13 September 2012 at 1:10pm \| IP Logged
	Far be it from me to comment on another person's work schedule, but it would seem a shame to lose the great momentum you seem to have built up in Swedish, not to mention leaving poor old Håkan dangling. :-) I had been wondering about suggesting getting an audiobook of the same book (if there is one), as a kind of encouragement/driver, but when I looked at one Nesser audiobook at random on bokus.com, they seemed relatively expensive (at least compared to some Danish audiobooks, at least at mibook.com ). Don't know if there is anywhere cheaper for Swedish audiobooks. Which book is it, as a matter of interest? I've only read one work by Nesser (actually as an audiobook) and that was in German, and a short story not a full novel I'd say, but he's definitely on my "come back to" list, in German (loads of translations available), and in Danish (if I can find translations). Maybe Swedish one day, deep into the future ... :-) 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 77 of 92 19 September 2012 at 3:01am \| IP Logged
	The book I got was "Och Piccadilly Circus ligger inte i Kumla." Today I found out the Russian class I had wanted to take was canceled, and the private lessons are too expensive for me at the time. Very unfortunate, but what can you do? I did, however, have the pleasant experience of buying cloth from a Russian vendor and speaking to her in Russian. Now I get to practice my Russian and make clothes! Swedish will be making a slow resurgence. 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 78 of 92 22 September 2012 at 7:25pm \| IP Logged
	So I read the first chapter of "Cœur du loup." I tried to read it around five years ago and was disappointed at my inability to read it. This time I was surprised I could understand it very well! As you can tell, I'm trying to get my French up-to-snuff; I've been considering going to a university in Quebec so that I can truly say I speak French fluently. EDIT: Got to chapter three. At a rate of one chapter a day, I should be done with this book in two weeks. I've been working slowly on the first page of Nesser's book. I need to get back into a steady rhythm. On the bright side, I listened to a Russian song from like four years ago and found out I could understand it much better. Makes me feel like I really have made a little progress. EDIT TWO: Making a playlist of Russian songs. My Swedish playlist has around 100 songs, so I think there are more than enough words there. :P And I've never really codified my canon of Russian songs. I feel like I've gone back in time four years, with all these songs I used to listen to (and didn't understand)! Edited by pbromide on 23 September 2012 at 4:28am 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 79 of 92 23 September 2012 at 6:58pm \| IP Logged
	I've suddenly decided to read a lot in French, probably to prove to myself that it is not a matter of ego-stroking that I put on my profile that French is one of my "speaking" languages. This random French obsession means, of course, less time spent on Russian and Swedish. But I need to find a way to get back to them. The thing is I can't do all three languages at once. What to do? 1 person has voted this message useful
tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish	Message 80 of 92 23 September 2012 at 7:02pm \| IP Logged
	I am pretty much balancing the same three (and I have French on my list too). I pretty much only do extensive activities in French - reading, listening, and so on and so forth. I do a bit of writing for class. I don't actively make wordlists or anything. Just do the things you usually do in English in French (Google, mail, youtube are all set to French for me). 1 person has voted this message useful

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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh	Message 73 of 92 05 September 2012 at 7:08pm \| IP Logged
	I can confirm lazy. :-))) 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 74 of 92 06 September 2012 at 3:57am \| IP Logged
	Today I did a bit more digging about and discovered wonderful, wonderful things. For one, there are some people who do "Let's Play" videos in Swedish. This quite excites me as it's an opportunity to listen to Swedish on a subject I care about. Let's Play Also found an (unfinished?) translation of Chrono Trigger in Swedish. Here's a video of the translation. It was also apparently available in Finnish, French, Russian... And finally, I found this Russian writer who posts some of his work online. I found him, ironically enough, while googling "Swedish Fan Translations." He wrote the Metro 2033 series, so some Russians here might be familiar with him. Played more Pokémon Silver today and saw the word "glasögon" which I am guessing means glasses. A shame; I spent a good few seconds thinking "there was never a man with glass eyes in the original Silver..." I've decided to follow tarvos's advice and just play as many Swedish games as I can. There are a few fan translations of the Final Fantasy games (though I am not a huge fan of them, they do appear to have a lot of text which is good), so I have quite a few games in my catalog. They wanted native speaker materials - they got them. My book should also be arriving Friday. It's time to step my languages into high gear. I got a book from the library with a few Russian short stories and while the vocabulary seems out of my league, I'm going to try and get through one of the shorter stories and write down all the unknown words, then look them up. Yeah, the dictionary method. Poisonous, toxic, whatever other synonym you expected; textbooks will only get you so far, correct? But I should still learn all the vocabulary in the multiple Russian courses I have. Some of it is a bit touristy, but I think I'd be a little ashamed if I could end up reading Pravda but was unable to order some borscht. Basically, I realized that what I was doing was not sufficient for either Russian or Swedish. I need to disconnect myself from the internet at home and read in Russian or Swedish at school whenever possible. I have free time; may as well use it for something productive. Today will be the beginning of kicking it into high gear. 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 75 of 92 12 September 2012 at 3:32am \| IP Logged
	My Håkan Nesser book arrived, but I think I might actually have to put off Swedish for a while. I've been toying with the idea of taking an Intensive Russian class, but the only one available is Intensive Russian 2. I can't help but wonder if that might be too intensive for me... if it'll get me on the right track for Russian, though, it should be worth it. Going through my Russian textbook for school and writing down all the new words. I've already gotten halfway through the book and I can say that I know most of these words. If this pattern continues, I can state I am at a "low intermediate" level. Been a little distracted from my languages recently - playing Pokemon in Swedish, oddly enough, got me more into Pokemon than Swedish! 1 person has voted this message useful
montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh	Message 76 of 92 13 September 2012 at 1:10pm \| IP Logged
	Far be it from me to comment on another person's work schedule, but it would seem a shame to lose the great momentum you seem to have built up in Swedish, not to mention leaving poor old Håkan dangling. :-) I had been wondering about suggesting getting an audiobook of the same book (if there is one), as a kind of encouragement/driver, but when I looked at one Nesser audiobook at random on bokus.com, they seemed relatively expensive (at least compared to some Danish audiobooks, at least at mibook.com ). Don't know if there is anywhere cheaper for Swedish audiobooks. Which book is it, as a matter of interest? I've only read one work by Nesser (actually as an audiobook) and that was in German, and a short story not a full novel I'd say, but he's definitely on my "come back to" list, in German (loads of translations available), and in Danish (if I can find translations). Maybe Swedish one day, deep into the future ... :-) 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 77 of 92 19 September 2012 at 3:01am \| IP Logged
	The book I got was "Och Piccadilly Circus ligger inte i Kumla." Today I found out the Russian class I had wanted to take was canceled, and the private lessons are too expensive for me at the time. Very unfortunate, but what can you do? I did, however, have the pleasant experience of buying cloth from a Russian vendor and speaking to her in Russian. Now I get to practice my Russian and make clothes! Swedish will be making a slow resurgence. 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 78 of 92 22 September 2012 at 7:25pm \| IP Logged
	So I read the first chapter of "Cœur du loup." I tried to read it around five years ago and was disappointed at my inability to read it. This time I was surprised I could understand it very well! As you can tell, I'm trying to get my French up-to-snuff; I've been considering going to a university in Quebec so that I can truly say I speak French fluently. EDIT: Got to chapter three. At a rate of one chapter a day, I should be done with this book in two weeks. I've been working slowly on the first page of Nesser's book. I need to get back into a steady rhythm. On the bright side, I listened to a Russian song from like four years ago and found out I could understand it much better. Makes me feel like I really have made a little progress. EDIT TWO: Making a playlist of Russian songs. My Swedish playlist has around 100 songs, so I think there are more than enough words there. :P And I've never really codified my canon of Russian songs. I feel like I've gone back in time four years, with all these songs I used to listen to (and didn't understand)! Edited by pbromide on 23 September 2012 at 4:28am 1 person has voted this message useful
pbromide Bilingual Triglot Groupie United States Joined 4546 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English, Spanish, French Studies: Russian, Swedish	Message 79 of 92 23 September 2012 at 6:58pm \| IP Logged
	I've suddenly decided to read a lot in French, probably to prove to myself that it is not a matter of ego-stroking that I put on my profile that French is one of my "speaking" languages. This random French obsession means, of course, less time spent on Russian and Swedish. But I need to find a way to get back to them. The thing is I can't do all three languages at once. What to do? 1 person has voted this message useful
tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish	Message 80 of 92 23 September 2012 at 7:02pm \| IP Logged
	I am pretty much balancing the same three (and I have French on my list too). I pretty much only do extensive activities in French - reading, listening, and so on and so forth. I do a bit of writing for class. I don't actively make wordlists or anything. Just do the things you usually do in English in French (Google, mail, youtube are all set to French for me). 1 person has voted this message useful