Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4826 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 33 of 82 09 September 2012 at 5:39pm | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
Homogenik wrote:
I don't understand why these people kept on talking to that man.
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And yes Canada has plenty of self-righteous racist garbage to
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I can't help but think that the taxi in the background may have had something to do
with it (maybe the fight broke out over trying to hail it and who got there first). It
sounds like there was a fair amount of alcohol involved, too.
That kind of attitude exists all over the place. I've seen it in San Francisco,
Chicago, New York, Madrid...
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I know it does. Every country has its own rats. I just take it more personally because I'm from Quebec and I just
can't bear this kind of attitude.
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 34 of 82 09 September 2012 at 5:53pm | IP Logged |
Homogenik wrote:
And yes Canada has plenty of self-righteous racist garbage to dump
somewhere. Anyone with a big land and shovels interested? |
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Actually, the guy's beef is with language, culture and assimilation. I can't hear
anything racist in what he says, or am I missing something?
Here I am derailing my own thread... despicable...
Edited by Arekkusu on 09 September 2012 at 6:18pm
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s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5432 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish
| Message 35 of 82 09 September 2012 at 10:05pm | IP Logged |
Really, that video is not worth discussing. But for those people who are really interested in spoken Quebec (and European) French, you should have a look at www.fluentfrenchnow.com. The blogger has started a series of studies of YouTube videos where he provides a very accurate transcription, a translation and an in-depth analysis of the language used. As of this writing, there are two videos from France and two from Quebec. A lot of work went into doing all that. Even I learned quite a bit about French from looking at this stuff.
And as for the closed-captions on Radio-Canada, RDS and RDI, I agree that there are often many mistakes. I should also point out that the closed-captions in French for Youtube videos are particularly atrocious because they are machine generated.
Edited by s_allard on 09 September 2012 at 10:06pm
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tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4667 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian
| Message 36 of 82 09 September 2012 at 11:31pm | IP Logged |
s_allard wrote:
Really, that video is not worth discussing. But for those people who are really interested in spoken Quebec (and European) French, you should have a look at www.fluentfrenchnow.com. |
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That site is excellent. I've been reading it regularly for a while now.
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lecavaleur Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4779 days ago 146 posts - 295 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 37 of 82 10 September 2012 at 5:49pm | IP Logged |
Un bel exemple du français québécois en action : http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=663dMLbDYDQ&feature=related
Extrait du Show Caché de Louis-José Houde.
When you can understand that without difficulty, I'm pretty sure you get automatic Quebec
citizenship. ;)
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 38 of 82 12 September 2012 at 5:26pm | IP Logged |
lecavaleur wrote:
Un bel exemple du français québécois en action : http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=663dMLbDYDQ&feature=related
Extrait du Show Caché de Louis-José Houde.
When you can understand that without difficulty, I'm pretty sure you get automatic Quebec
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Doesn't help that he's on speed and hardly articulates ;)
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5383 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 39 of 82 12 September 2012 at 6:15pm | IP Logged |
I don't know enough about Swiss-German to comment, but HTLAL has 2 separate language entries for German and Swiss-German. Are these more different than français and québécois? Shouldn't Québécois also be language category?
Certainly, when we discuss Québécois, we aren't dealing with matters that would interest students of France French, and anyone interested in Québécois wouldn't find much if he simply looked for posts about French or native speakers of French.
I started a thread requesting this here.
Edited by Arekkusu on 12 September 2012 at 6:38pm
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Tsopivo Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4473 days ago 258 posts - 411 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Esperanto
| Message 40 of 82 12 September 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged |
sillygoose1 wrote:
Also another question:
Do a lot of Quebecois understand France French fine? I heard that usually French people can't understand Quebecois but the opposite is true. How can the Quebecois understand France French? Does Quebec get a lot of access to France's TV networks at all? |
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France French and Quebec French are not that different. The written and formal language are pretty much the same in both countries. In informal spoken language, the only difference is the grammar, a few words and the accent. So I think it takes very little input to be able to understand the other.
I do not believe that Quebec people watch a lot of TV shows from France but I would not really know since I don't watch TV. However, I think people watch a lot of american TV shows and a lot of American movies and those usually get dubbed in France French as France in the main market. There is also a lot of French immigrants, French sudents doing a student exchange... in Quebec, way more than the other way around.
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