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| LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4643 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes  Speaks: Czech* | Message 185 of 186 04 October 2012 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
If we redefine "speaking X" as "being able to recite memorized texts in X" then of course you can speak better than you understand, but that's not what people usually mean by "speaking X". 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6541 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 186 of 186 04 October 2012 at 10:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Why necessarily memorized? At least my redefinition was to "be able to produce monologue and be understood". Monologue is a separate CEFR skill from dialogue.
And don't mix up the speaking skills with fluency. Memorizing does give you some speaking skills but it obviously can't make you fluent. The way I see it, at least half the time s_allard has been arguing that it's impossible to be fluent (ok, proficient) in a language but understand nothing. But I agree with this :) The question is what is the corresponding level of listening skills for when you've learned some words and can produce sentences with them and be understood. For me the ideal situation is to learn this when I already understand everything or at least 90%. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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