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Peregrinus
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 Message 9 of 11
03 October 2012 at 2:20pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Well, the OP is already intermediate in Spanish. And 95%+ is waaaay too much:) How about Katò Lomb's method? :P I myself prefer to be at like 60%.



For extensive reading with a popup dictionary, 90% works for me. Linguamor first advocated 95% and then later raised it to 98% (and knowing the grammar already). She also in a post explained the difference between learning in context (looking up unknown words), and learning from context (inferring meaning from the surrounding text alone). As well, she explained that as one progressed one read faster and faster thus learning vocabulary at an accelerated rate (with the trick being able to find progressively slightly more difficult reading material to keep at the 98% mark).

The point is that for ER to be relatively efficient, once needs to know that 98% or whatever to make the process relatively fast. Otherwise she advocated first using intensive means to get to that level.

Of course one can do it anyway one likes with whatever % floats the boat including starting de novo with a dictionary and a book in the target language, but I personally regard Linguamor's writings on ER as authoritative, and given her polyglottery, successful as well.
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montmorency
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 Message 10 of 11
03 October 2012 at 2:29pm | IP Logged 
Peregrinus wrote:


The point is that for ER to be relatively efficient, once needs to know that 98% or whatever to make the process relatively fast. Otherwise she advocated first using intensive means to get to that level.

Of course one can do it anyway one likes with whatever % floats the boat including starting de novo with a dictionary and a book in the target language, but I personally regard Linguamor's writings on ER as authoritative, and given her polyglottery, successful as well.


Before my time apparently, and long gone. But here is one of her postings on the subject:

Linguamor on ER


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Tilia
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 Message 11 of 11
11 October 2012 at 6:09pm | IP Logged 
Thank you very much everyone for useful advice and links.

I have made a list of things I should do at least once a week, to make sure I get
around all the different aspects of learning the language. That might not sound very
ambitious, but I am not really a person that enjoys making schedules for myself and
following them closely. I fear that would take the fun out of it for me.

Also I have decided that I should have a vocabulary milestone, but I am not really sure
how to go about counting how many words I know already, and what exactly are the
criteria for knowing a word anyway? Is passive understanding enough?

Maybe I shouldn't bother with counting and just set a goal of how many new words I
would like to learn, but what would be realistic in say ... a month?

Last night I found a CEFR level test http://www.spanish-test.net/index.htm (I don't
know if it is any good) and got 70% correct in the B1 level test (just enough to pass).
I stopped there because I was too tired (and the B1 test was hard enough). So I don't
know how bad I would have done in the B2 test. :-)


Edited by Tilia on 14 October 2012 at 11:26am



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