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| brozman Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Spain Joined 6058 days ago 87 posts - 106 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, English, Japanese Studies: Russian, Indonesian | Message 17 of 31 20 February 2009 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
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Spanish is closer to Portuguese than to Catalan. Catalan's nearest relative is Occitan, followed by French.
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| ChiaBrain Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5810 days ago 402 posts - 512 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish* Studies: Portuguese, Italian, French Studies: German | Message 18 of 31 21 February 2009 at 5:11pm | IP Logged |
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Latin/Continental Romance/Italo-Western/Western Romance/...
.../Iberio-Romance/[Spanish, Portuguese] .../Gallo-Romance/[French] .../Gallo-Romance/Occitano Romance/[Catalan, Occitan] ...so Catalan has more in common with French than Spanish? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6705 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 19 of 31 21 February 2009 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
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From a purely historical point of view Catalan is closer to Occitan, but Occitan is not French, and with the demise of Occitan and the strong influence from Castilian ('Spanish' ) that historical fact has become irrelevant. If you consider the three living languages French, Catalnian and Spanish, then there is no doubt that modern Catalan is much closer to Spanish than it is to French.
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| ChiaBrain Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5810 days ago 402 posts - 512 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish* Studies: Portuguese, Italian, French Studies: German | Message 20 of 31 22 February 2009 at 3:05am | IP Logged |
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I just listened to these couple stations out of curiosity:
Catalan: http://www.rac1.org/ Occitan: http://www.radio-occitania.com/en-presentation.php They both sound far closer to Spanish than French or Portuguese. If I wasn't paying attention I'd think it was Spanish with some regional accent. I hear a lot of words that sound like Spanish words with the ends cut off. So how easy would it be easy to get around Cataluña, Còsta d'Azur and Provence being fluent in Spanish? Edited by ChiaBrain on 22 February 2009 at 5:29am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| arbigelow Tetraglot Groupie Canada Joined 5884 days ago 89 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchC1, German, Spanish | Message 21 of 31 22 February 2009 at 11:12am | IP Logged |
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I'm interested in doing a university exchange in Spain and I'd really like to go to Barcelona. I've heard somewhere that in university classes the language of preference is Catalan, but sometimes they switch to Castillian if the need is there. Is this true?
I don't know how true this is, but when I was watching "L'auberge espagnole", there were 15 exchange students that only spoke Castillian and the professor just told them if they wanted to go to university in Castillian, they should've gone to Madrid or Latin America. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| brozman Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie Spain Joined 6058 days ago 87 posts - 106 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, English, Japanese Studies: Russian, Indonesian | Message 22 of 31 22 February 2009 at 9:18pm | IP Logged |
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It depends on the professor and on the faculty. For example, in my faculty there's no problem if you want to attend classes in Spanish as many subjects are offered in both languages because of the high number of exchange students and people from other autonomous communities. And in fact, many of my teachers teach in Spanish even though all students speak Catalan and their subject has nothing to do with Spanish language. Some of them just mix languages. Anyway, I don't think you should worry about that, I know many Britons, French, Japanese, Chinese, Germans, etc., who are studying here and are enjoying their experience a lot.
What would you like to do here? Maybe I can help you. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| arbigelow Tetraglot Groupie Canada Joined 5884 days ago 89 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchC1, German, Spanish | Message 23 of 31 22 February 2009 at 9:35pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks for replying, brozman. If I went it would be to study business at ESADE. On one hand, I've heard that Barcelona is a beautiful city with lots too see, plus it's got beaches :). But on the other hand, I'm not sure how great of a place it would be to study Spanish since Catalan is so strong there.
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| Alvinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 6236 days ago 828 posts - 832 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish | Message 24 of 31 23 February 2009 at 1:36pm | IP Logged |
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does Catalan face the same problems as Galician does in Galicia?.....I mean the Galician stablished by RAG...the type of Galician that is called "castrapo" but is deemed the official one by Spanish Government?
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