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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 23 26 January 2013 at 1:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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If the OP was asking about classes, yeah, they're not necessary and more useful for getting to know people. I've learned Finnish without ever taking a class.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 10 of 23 27 January 2013 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I do need textbooks, they help me organize my schedule. I start using native materials
consistently only after I've learned the textbooks in my level well enough. THat has only happened to French so far. At my schedule I don't usually have time for using native materials and therefore I decided to stick to textbooks. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 11 of 23 27 January 2013 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A course? Not per se, but I do think some sort of structure is needed, particularly if
the language you're learning has no relation to any other language you speak. That said, it's pretty easy to take a deficient resource, whether it's some half-baked online lessons or a course from an established company, and mould it and extend it to your needs and make it your own. You just have to be willing to put in the time and research. R. == 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| bethworthy Newbie United States gmrtranscripti& Joined 4322 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Studies: English | Message 12 of 23 28 January 2013 at 7:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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Courses can help! Learning language is a time-taking, continuous process. Courses can
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| SchwarzerWolf Newbie Italy Joined 4524 days ago 20 posts - 27 votes Speaks: Italian* Studies: English, German | Message 13 of 23 28 January 2013 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think a course for beginners is kind of mandatory when you start learning a new language. How else could you learn the basic grammar and the so-called "core words"? Unless you can rely on the help of a native speaker everyday, I see no other way. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| BaronBill Triglot Senior Member United States HowToLanguages.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4690 days ago 335 posts - 594 votes Speaks: English*, French, German Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Persian | Message 14 of 23 28 January 2013 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't think this is the case at all. Some people start with a phrasebook, look up some vocab in the dictionary, put together some sentences with the use of a Grammar and viola! Some people use the 10,000 sentence method. Some use Heinrich Schliemann's method with isn't a course either. I think there are certainly ways to learn with no course. That being said, I am a believer in courses myself as I find they bring a good bit of structure and balance to any new language. I always figure that someone who knows language X better than myself has put these courses together so why reinvent the wheel? 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 15 of 23 28 January 2013 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
You know, I'm going through the process right now of adapting a rather sparse course to my own needs. It's the Pimsleur Ojibwe course, which by all accounts, is considered one of the better offerings by the company. There are all sorts of holes and glaring omissions that I'm filling as I go along, thanks to other resources I've found online. But it's provided me with the initial framework of a complete course. By the time I'm finished, I expect I'll have a pretty decent beginner's course - one that I've extended to meet my own needs. And it won't have taken all that much longer than the original 30 lesson course, all things considered. R. == Edited by hrhenry on 28 January 2013 at 6:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6704 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 23 29 January 2013 at 6:47am | IP Logged | |||||
If you already have learnt one language and the basic notions of grammar while studying that language you don't necessarily need a teacher to teach you the notions of another one - although I could imagine that some pupils would be unable to transfer the notions and make the relevant adjustments themselves. And as I have written elsewhere I find it a waste of valuable time to teach vocabulary in a class. The things you should get in a class room are (or should at least be) motivation, a role model plus corrections - though no so many or so scathing that it would kill your interest in the language. In other words a course should be a place where you are pushed to use the things you learn outside the course. But I know very well that this is not how things are developing in the world of pedagogy right now. As far as I can ascertain from newspaper reports etc. is that homework is frown upon and neglected by the pupils, and the result is that they learn less than they could have done with just supermotivated and smart pupils around, but more than if you had been naive enough to expect them to do the necessary amount of home study voluntarily. Edited by Iversen on 29 January 2013 at 6:53am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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