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| Saga Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4364 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Greek | Message 1 of 13 01 January 2013 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
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Hello and welcome to my TAC log for 2013!
This will be my first TAC and hopefully I'll keep up till the end. As I want to focus on Modern Greek this year I've joined the rather small, but enthusiastic Team Sparta. Being in an enthusiastic (which is ενθουσιαστικός [enthousiastikós] in Greek, by the way) team is probably my best chance at staying motivated enough throughout the year. Greek won't be the only language I want to tackle in 2013, though. Japanese and French will get some of my attention, too. This is where I'm standing with these three languages now: Modern Greek Level: Beginner Materials: - Assimil Griechisch ohne Mühe - Langenscheidt's Praktisches Lehrbuch Griechisch - Ελληνική γλώσσα - Γραμματική και Συντακτικό Ε' Δημοτικού (a grammar book for 5th grade children) - Greek Easy Readers - a lot of Greek music - some newspapers, magazines and novels - online radio Japanese Level: Beginner, somewhere around JLPT N3/N4 grammarwise Materials: - several novels - Podcasts - blogs and other websites Note: I don't have any physical textbook, which is why I'm going to use online material for the most part. Luckily, there are plenty of websites for Japanese learners. French Level: I used to be at B1, but I haven't done anything with French for several years and can't really put a sentence together now Materials: - novels again, plus audiobooks - online radio and podcasts Note: I was thinking about doing some grammar and vocabulary revision first and starting to read those novels later. But now that I've read about Tadoku being active again, I think, it might be a good idea to do both parallel. The first round just started and I already signed up with the goal of reading at least 300 pages. My overall goal for 2013 is to spend more time on learning these languages and doing so regularly. To make it a bit easier for me to stay focused throughout the year, I'll set monthly goals instead of one big goal for the entire year. This will allow me to adapt my language learning to possible changes in my life in an easier way. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Saga Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4364 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Greek | Message 2 of 13 01 January 2013 at 4:26pm | IP Logged |
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In this post I'll collect links to websites I find useful for learning Greek, Japanese
and French. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5334 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 3 of 13 01 January 2013 at 4:34pm | IP Logged |
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Welcome to your first TAC! I think you have chosen wisely when it comes to team Sparta, what we lack in numbers we compensate with in enthusiasm. And as true Spartans we are of course not worried about being outnumbered! Please let me know what you think of your grammars - I am very much in the market for a good Greek grammar.
Are you a true beginner or a false beginner (really hoping for more true beginners here to keep me company :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Saga Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4364 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Greek | Message 4 of 13 05 January 2013 at 6:14pm | IP Logged |
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First of all, sorry for posting so little. Somehow the forum software doesn't really like me, it seems. It takes a
long time for pages to open, if they open at all and there isn't a timeout... On some days I just lose my patience and go off doing something else instead. @Cristina: I'm not really a true beginner :) I already know some Greek, but not very much. I'd consider myself an intermediate beginner, somewhere beyond the very basics, but still far away from the intermediate stage. Unfortunately, I can't really recommend you any grammar books. What I'm using are mostly textbooks (Assimil, Langenscheidt and Ελληνική γλώσσα). That grammar book for 5th grade children I got in Greece for practising purposes. It explains Greek grammar to Greek children and has a lot of examples and exercises with solutions. I still have a long way to go until I can use it, though, and therefore I probably won't use it until later this year. When I read LanguageSponge's post about setting monthly goals, I just had to smile very broadly because this is the exact thing I'm planning to do, too. I'm terrible at following long term goals, so setting short term goals is the logic consequence for me. Anyway, these are my goals for January: Greek/Ελληνικά - Assimil repetition: μαθίματα 1 - 53 - Langenscheidt repetition: μαθίματα 1 - 5 - Easy reader: Ποιος είναι ο Α.Μ.; Japanese/日本語 - Kanji: thorough repetition of 1st and 2nd grade kanji (240 kanji) - 4 intermediate podcasts from Japanesepod101 - read 4 blog entries French/Français (my Tadoku language in January) - read at least 300 pages (currently: Harry Potter à l'école des sorciers) - repeat basic French grammar and vocabulary Most January goals are repetition because I've forgotten quite a lot in all three languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5334 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 5 of 13 05 January 2013 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
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Trust me. It is not you. It is the forum. Lately there are days when it has taken me half an hour to post
something, it takes forever just to change threads, and I get a ton of error messages. It us not usually like this, but someone said there is a lot more traffic right now, and the system is struggling to handle it. Well, it always comes in handy to have more experienced learners in the group, so I'll just listen to your discussions, and trust that I'll learn Greek by osmosis :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4610 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 6 of 13 12 January 2013 at 5:30pm | IP Logged |
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Hello Saga. I'm looking forward to following your log. I'll understand roughly 2/3 of it as I know no Japanese. ;)
I admire you for picking three very different languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Saga Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4364 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Greek | Message 7 of 13 13 January 2013 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
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@Cristina: Thanks for telling me that it is the forum and not me :) It's reassuring to know that others have the same troubles and that I don't need to go and search for the problem on my computer and browser.
@embici: Thanks for stopping by. I'm pretty sure you'll understand more than 2/3 ^^ simply because I'm not going to write much Japanese here. As far as I've seen there are basically no native speakers around to correct my horrible Japanese, which is why I'll do the writing practise at lang-8 ... probably. I haven't studied as much as I'd wanted to, but I still managed to do something. Greek/Ελληνικά Assimil repetition: 7/53 μαθίματα Langenscheidt repetition: 0/5 μαθίματα Easy Reader: 22/46 pages (not counting the exercise and vocab part at the end of the book) And I wrote something like an introduction: Γεια σας. Με λένε Εύα και είμαι από τη Γερμανία. Φέτος μαθαίνω τα ελληνικά, τα γαλλικά και τα ιαπωνεζικά. Θέλω να μαθαίνω και τις άλλες γλώσσες, αλλά τρεις γλώσσες είναι αρκετά για τώρα. Τα ελληνικά είναι η πιο σημαντική γλώσσα για μένα φέτος γιατί θα πάω στην Κρήτη το Μάιο και θέλω να μιλήσω πιο πολύ με τους ντόπιους. Οι γονείς μου έχουν ένα μικρό σπίτι στην Κρήτη και γι'αυτό θα πηγαίνω εκεί πιο συχνα. Αυτό είναι κι ο λόγος γιατί πρέπει να μιλάω και καταλαβαίνω τα ελληνικά. Japanese/日本語 Kanji: 0/240 Podcasts: 0/4 Blog entries: 1/4 I have done practically nothing in Japanese apart from reading one blog entry at nihongodaybyday. French/Français For Tadoku I began to read the first Harry Potter book. I was anxious that I would just stare at the pages and understand close to nothing, but that wasn't the case. I'm reading the book while listening to the audiobook because I don't trust myself enough to pronounce the words the right way, even if it is only in my head. It also keeps me from stopping every single time an unknown word pops up. I don't understand every single word – far from that, actually. But by knowing the story and recognizing cognates of French and English, I manage to understand most of what is going on. For example, I wouldn't know what a "chaudron" is just by looking at the word. But it was used in "Chaudron Baveur", which is the name of a pub – knowing the story, I know this is the "Leaky Cauldron", which makes it easy to guess the meaning. Funny note: I even understood the word "choixpeau" :) Je suis en train de lire "Harry Potter à l'école des sorciers". C'ést le premier livre en français que je lis depuis "Le Petit Prince" dont j'ai lu à l'école il y a quelques années. Et ce sont les premiers mots j'écris en français depuis longtemps. J'ai oublié beaucoup, mais je suis très surprise combien de la langue retourne après quelques chapitres de Harry Potter. Je ne comprends pas tout le text, mais comme je connais l'histoire c'est plus facile à suivre ce que se passe. Maintenant je ne peux pas écrire beaucoup, parce que j'ai oublié pas seulement le vocabulaire français mais aussi le grammaire. Par exemple, je ne sais plus comment former tous les temps ... En tout cas je vais continuer à écrire quelques mots en français dans ce blog ici. Tadoku: 159,5/300 pages Grammaire: nothing 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4358 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 8 of 13 13 January 2013 at 6:26pm | IP Logged |
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Αυτός είναι κι ο λόγος για τον οποίο πρέπει να μιλάω και να καταλαβαίνω τα ελληνικά.
Γιαπωνέζικα or Ιαπωνικά θα ήθελα να μάθω και άλλες γλώσσες Καλή τύχη, good luck and have fun in Crete. Well done. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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