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| evol Triglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 4334 days ago 28 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, German, Spanish | Message 1 of 15 28 February 2013 at 9:53pm | IP Logged |
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Linguaphone from 1950s produced separate manuals for each course, with varying number
of CDs or cassettes. And there were different editions and reprints. How do you tell whether a course is complete when you see one in an online marketplace? Looking over the collection in the local library, (if it is right) even products from the same year might not contain the same number of books... Example: Entry 1 - French course [sound recording]. 12th ed. 4 sound cassettes + 3 texts (Handbook, Written exercises and Lessons) + 1 pamphlet (Practice material). London : Linguaphone, 1984. Entry 2 - French course [sound recording]. 12th ed. 8 sound cassettes + 4 texts (Handbook; 3 course books : Written exercises, Oral exercises & Lessons) + 1 pamphlet (Instructions). London : Linguaphone, 1984. Thank you. Edited by evol on 28 February 2013 at 9:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6913 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 15 01 March 2013 at 1:13am | IP Logged |
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I've been lucky to find courses with pictures of the contents. For common languages such as French, Italian etc. I've lost count of how many different versions I've seen. The most basic courses I know of still have two books (a textbook with the lesson in the target language, and a handbook with vocabulary and more), while courses with four books aren't uncommon (usually exercises and pronunciation).
You just have to make sure that the pictures match the description, and that you get what you want. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evol Triglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 4334 days ago 28 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, German, Spanish | Message 3 of 15 01 March 2013 at 5:29pm | IP Logged |
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Thank you Jeff.
Is the translation of the course in the handbook with vocabulary, or do I have to ensure there is a separate manual titled translation book? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6913 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 15 01 March 2013 at 5:47pm | IP Logged |
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The handbook has vocabulary, translation and additional grammar notes.
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| evol Triglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 4334 days ago 28 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, German, Spanish | Message 5 of 15 01 March 2013 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
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Thank you. One more question if you don't mind.
Is it common that one buys a Linguaphone course WITHOUT audio and find it elsewhere online? Because there are so many different versions of courses, are there also different versions for audio materials? If it is true, I could imagine the difficulty to find the right audio because even audio (as well as books) published in the same year with the same title may not be the same. Edited by evol on 01 March 2013 at 6:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6913 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 15 01 March 2013 at 7:29pm | IP Logged |
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No idea, I haven't had a close look at those similar courses for the same language, but if nothing else, for those courses where one edition has four tapes and another has eight, I think the added tapes have exercises.
The textbook and the audio are probably the same (or very similar). For example, my Linguaphone Irish was published in 1986, but the first year of print says 1974 so maybe the content is the same. I don't know. If Professor Arguelles were still here, he could probably confirm (he seems to have had a look at quite a lot of editions). For a language where there have been major political changes, the dialogues might have been updated. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evol Triglot Newbie Hong Kong Joined 4334 days ago 28 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, German, Spanish | Message 7 of 15 01 March 2013 at 8:39pm | IP Logged |
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That's great advice!
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6913 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 8 of 15 01 March 2013 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
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Again, I'm not totally sure whether an edition from the 1970s and one from the mid 1980s has exactly the same text and audio, but in case the number of books are the same (typically textbook and handbook), it's probably just a reprint (with some possible minor edits such as currency, government and capitol in the countries where the language is spoken). A few months ago, forum member michal mentioned the new Assimil Portuguese where technical words like "typewriter" had been replaced with "computer" and so on. So, sometimes there's room for minor improvement.
But back to Linguaphone. I believe it was relatively easy for them to just add a book or two with exercises (and have somebody record them) to an already existing textbook+handbook combo, than to rewrite all the material. Many learners (myself included) like to get a glimpse of the culture associated with the country (past and present). However, if it's too specific, there's a risk that it's out of date in no-time. In order words, an ideal course is "neutral", but not too neutral, and it also has some information on geography/culture/politics/etc. but not too much. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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