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hrhenry
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 Message 9 of 96
24 April 2013 at 4:11pm | IP Logged 
patrickwilken wrote:
It's much more likely (albeit still very unlikely) that the USA
will become officially bilingual with Spanish as the second language.

That'll never happen. Official language status is set at the state level, not federal.
Some states, for example, have declared English to be their official language, while
other states have no official language.

Unless we're talking de facto standard. But that's not "official".

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 Message 10 of 96
24 April 2013 at 4:22pm | IP Logged 
hrhenry wrote:
   
That'll never happen. Official language status is set at the state level, not federal.
Some states, for example, have declared English to be their official language, while
other states have no official language.
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That's interesting. But how does it work at a federal level? Obama can't suddenly switch official White House communications into Spanish, say, to annoy the hell out of the Republicans can he? The thought does make me smile though...


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24 April 2013 at 4:40pm | IP Logged 
No thank you, I would rather not be bereaved of my choice.
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 Message 12 of 96
24 April 2013 at 4:51pm | IP Logged 
Strange how this proposal came from a German.

He should be sticking up for his own language!
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 Message 13 of 96
24 April 2013 at 4:55pm | IP Logged 
beano wrote:
Strange how this proposal came from a German.

He should be sticking up for his own language!


Then he would be called a Nazi. Sad but true.
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24 April 2013 at 5:03pm | IP Logged 
daegga wrote:
Then he would be called a Nazi. Sad but true.


Is it possible not to have the Nazi's brought up in threads? It's gets really boring.
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 Message 15 of 96
24 April 2013 at 6:00pm | IP Logged 
patrickwilken wrote:
daegga wrote:
Then he would be called a Nazi. Sad but true.


Is it possible not to have the Nazi's brought up in threads? It's gets really boring.


It just confirms Godwin's law

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 Message 16 of 96
24 April 2013 at 6:39pm | IP Logged 
pesahson wrote:
An interesting article from the Guardian with quite interesting comments from the readers.

Should English be the official language of the EU

To be honest I never even thought about EU having one official language. It still strikes me as an odd idea. But apparently some disagree.


I don't think that it's a good idea considering that most of Europe effectively adheres to the idea of a given ethnic group or tribe corresponding to a unique language (approximated by having 27 members/nation states and 23 official/working languages), notwithstanding that French and German are pluricentric (albeit not in a large sense since their distribution officially is limited to a small set of member states) or high-minded talk about European solidarity.

I do think though that it's paradoxical that the EU encourages multilingualism to this degree but its working policies and employees are basically multilingual by virtue of speaking their native language and no more than a few languages from a subset of the "bigger" Romance or Germanic languages (often from FIGS - French, Italian, German, Spanish). It doesn't seem to be the norm for say a French employee at the European Parliament to be multilingual because he/she is knowledgeable (let alone fluent) in Slavonic languages or Finno-Ugric ones in addition to his/her native French.

An unscientific recall of 5 friends who work or have done internships for the European Parliament with their own descriptions of their linguistic abilities reveals similarly.

1) Finnish (native), English (near-native), French (high-intermediate), German, Swedish (both intermediate),
2) Polish (native), English (near-native), German (advanced)
3) Polish (native), English (near-native), German (advanced), Russian (intermediate)
4) Polish (native), English (near-native), French (high-beginner/low-intermediate)
5) Polish (native), English (near-native), French (intermediate), Swedish (low-beginner/a few phrases? - there was an Erasmus period in Sweden long ago)

It's not that diverse in my view. There's understandably, if not regretfully, little love for the "lower-profile" Romance or Germanic languages (let alone the Celtic, Slavonic or Finno-Ugric ones) as someone's non-native languages.


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