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| leroc Senior Member United States Joined 4309 days ago 114 posts - 167 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 1 of 28 27 April 2013 at 6:42am | IP Logged | ||
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First off I’m going to start this thread by giving my own example of a fictional language learner and assume most of you are familiar with, Sasha Baron Cohen’s vulgar Kazakh, Borat Sagadiyev. He bumbles around the country using his somewhat endearing accent and absurdly off the wall humor and ‘innocence’ as a ‘foreigner’ to get various people to reveal their actual feelings on certain political movements or races in an unadulterated fashion.
What I’m wondering is what would you all grade his level of English at, personally I would give him a B1+ (tons of grammatical errors and terrible accent, yet understandable), and I would be interested to hear others thoughts. Post other fictional language learners and give them a grade! Edited by leroc on 27 April 2013 at 6:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Paco Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 4275 days ago 145 posts - 251 votes Speaks: Cantonese* | Message 2 of 28 27 April 2013 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would second that.
The ability to discuss those topics (and get people talk) indicates he is in at least B level. Without evidence of his being able to handle more advanced topics and vocabulary, the fact that he made tons of grammatical errors tempts me to speculate he is not beyond B level. So B1+ or low B2 is a good bet. Edited by Paco on 27 April 2013 at 12:11pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 3 of 28 27 April 2013 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Fascinating topic!
I wonder what Frodo's level of Sindarin actually was? A2? Also Santiago from The Alchemist... there was that unrealistic claim that he picked up Arabic naturally by working there and selling stuff and he got fluent. He probably was about B1 actually? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 4 of 28 29 April 2013 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Chuck Norris: E2
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 5 of 28 29 April 2013 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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Chuck Norris doesn't learn languages, he roundhouse kicks them into submission so they
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| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5558 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 6 of 28 29 April 2013 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | ||
Chuck Norris doesn't get CEFR graded, CEFR grades get Chuck Norrissed. 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6823 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 7 of 28 29 April 2013 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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Michael Corleone (Al Pacino), in The Godfather; Part 1, clearly was able to understand pretty much everything in Sicilian, but his speaking wasn't as good. B1-B2.
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| sfuqua Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4763 days ago 581 posts - 977 votes Speaks: English*, Hawaiian, Tagalog Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 28 30 April 2013 at 5:30am | IP Logged | ||
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Awesome topic; keep it up!
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