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| suzukaze Triglot Senior Member Italy bit.ly/1bGm459 Joined 4600 days ago 186 posts - 254 votes  Speaks: Italian*, English, Spanish Studies: German, French, Swedish, Japanese | Message 25 of 49 01 April 2014 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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General correction for most of your phrases: don't forget to capitalise the first letter of each sentence.
Now for the single sentences:
No need to use a comma after <se potessi>, <imparerei> and <sfortunatamente>.
Although <castellino> is correct, I would say <piccolo castello>. Also <comprerei>.
<a letto>, <saresti> because you are referring to the second person singular, not the first.
If the subject is the same, <voi> in this case, you don't have to repeat it since it's already clear from the verb <chiamereste> that you are referring to the second person plural.
<sarebbe>.
<Pagherebbe se avesse> (third person) or <Pagherei se avessi> (first person) and <la cartella delle tasse>.
It would be better to say <non ti rimarranno mai dei soldi alla fine del mese>.
<un aumento>.
<Se non mi verranno altre idee> or <Se non avrò altre idee> <non potrò finire/concludere>.
<non volessi sbagliare> o <fare degli errori> and <frasi> since it's plural. (I'm always happy to help ;))
<Anche volendo non ho più idee> or <Anche volendo non so più cosa scrivere>. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4633 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 26 of 49 01 April 2014 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Wow, you really answered fast, thanks a lot! Now I think I've got some things to learn ;)!
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| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5205 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 27 of 49 01 April 2014 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This was something I was unsure about too. Assimil, which I learnt most of my basic Italian from, basically said that the French-style past participle agreement with avere is correct but very much optional in normal speech. I had a search and found a page on Accademia della crusca, which suzukaze mentioned on my log as a great source for grammar questions, and it seems to basically be saying that both (agreement and no agreement) are equally valid. Although I was corrected another time for making the agreement and told that it sounded "more natural" without agreement. And from listening to Italians I hear both but I'd say no agreement is a bit more common. From all that, I'm a bit confused but I'm probably inclined to not make the agreement now. Also I sometimes mix up sarei, sarebbe, etc. for some reason. Maybe because in French the forms are the same, at least in terms of pronunciation. Edited by garyb on 01 April 2014 at 6:15pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4633 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 28 of 49 02 April 2014 at 7:24am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Interesting and good to know, thanks!
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| suzukaze Triglot Senior Member Italy bit.ly/1bGm459 Joined 4600 days ago 186 posts - 254 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, Spanish Studies: German, French, Swedish, Japanese | Message 29 of 49 02 April 2014 at 10:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think this is one of those cases where the choice boils down to personal preference only, especially when both options (agreement and non agreement) are correct and used. Edited by suzukaze on 02 April 2014 at 10:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4633 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 30 of 49 15 April 2014 at 6:59am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Time flies!
I enrolled in the April learning challenge with the hope to get a good start for the super challenge next month but I did little apart from listing the 500 words or so I want to learn. I'll soon be on holidays for a few days, I'm convinced a few days' rest will give me renewed motivation! I had time to read the epistolary crime story (interesting literary form) Acqua in Bocca. Of course, I intend to speed read all the Italian books mentioned in my log for the super challenge (should be faster the second time around!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4633 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 31 of 49 30 April 2014 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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So it´s official now, I've just committed myself to reading 5000 pages and watching 100 films in Italian, plus
reading one book in German (snail pace) and one in Norwegian (what´s slower than a snail ?)! Seeing that I have just failed the learning challenge for this month, I must be either crazy or very very optimistic (I prefer the latter!) I will try to keep track of my progress (or lack thereof) in this log. As a start, I plan to reread one or two children's books (aimed at 10-12 year old children), then as far as films are concerned, I' ve got the first five seasons of Friends dubbed in Italian, so I think my plate is full for now! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4633 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 32 of 49 27 June 2014 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Time for an update !
Films 3 so far so roughly 270 minutes - la Grande Bellezza - Caccia al tesoro (Montalbano) - Ho sposato uno sbirro (puntata 1), a nice mix between rom com and crime story, and it is easy to understand because the action is set in Rome ( with a lot of beautiful views from the city) Podcasts. 70 minutes Books I 'm in the middle of Il Tribunale delle Anime by Donato Carrisi ( I love detective novels) and I plan to read Il Suggeritore afterwards. Magazines 38 pages (I make 2 pages count as one as I think one page is sometimes too short) This is no literature (Chi and Oggi) but it is fun to read and I learn a lot of very usual vocabulary. I have completed the May vocabulary challenge and I intend to post it here when I have time. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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