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| Gala Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4551 days ago 229 posts - 421 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 49 of 63 10 May 2013 at 12:13am | IP Logged | |||||
It's just something I've observed; I'm not grinding any particular axe. Another thing I've noticed is that there hasn't been a single Spanish character portrayed as anything other than a villain in any telenovela that I've watched. Spanish actors that have trained their accents to Latin American neutral are sometimes sympathetic characters, but never anyone actually portraying a Spaniard. I'm sure there must be exceptions; but it seems to be a definite tendency. As far as *simmering resentment* goes, although I wasn't trying to spark a debate about historical culpability and Spanish colonialism, I think any Latin American of full or partial indigenous descent is quite entitled to feel it, and is certainly not *uncivilized* in doing so. And as to the "extreme-left," it's a major force in several Latin American nations according to the US mainstream (rightist) news-media 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 50 of 63 10 May 2013 at 2:32am | IP Logged | |||||
Si yo fuese/fuera ciega, cantaría (standard) Si yo fuese/fuera ciega, cataba (extremely common in Spain, and common in Mexico) Si yo sería ciega, cantaría (common in Northern Spain, and heard in parts of Argentina) Si yo fuera ciega, cantara (common in El Salvador). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gala Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4551 days ago 229 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 51 of 63 10 May 2013 at 4:19am | IP Logged | |||||
That last is common in Mexico as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| BrianDeAlabama Groupie United States Joined 4520 days ago 89 posts - 113 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 52 of 63 17 May 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm just chiming in on "prestigious" accents. I am from Alabama in the southern part of the United States. We are
often stereotyped as "backwood, inbred, gun-toting, racist bigots." While I do carry a gun with me everywhere I go the other labels do not describe me. I guess some would say that I have a strong southern accent. I've observed other people's jaws literally drop a few times over the years while listening to me speak ha ha ha. Some thought I was joking or trying to pulling a prank but I wasn't. Its my real voice. They were mainly from the northern parts of the United States. From the standpoint of accents, I speak with what is probably the most despised and mocked accent in the English speaking world---THE SOUTHERN ACCENT---. I watch the local news and see people that I went to school with speaking with the neutral accent. In my opinion neutral accents sound fake and laughable at times. I'd rather hear a natural accent if any. Concerning Spanish the Castilian "lisp" type Spanish has seemed to be considered prestigious among some I've spoke with over the years but I personally do not like the "liTHp". In my opinion it sounds so effeminate but over the past couple of years as I've tried to improve my Spanish I have softened my position a bit. Beauty and prestige are in the eyes and ears of the beholders or listeners. To each his own, one man's trash is another man's treasure. One man's patriot is another man's terrorist. I go to church with Spanish speakers from Costa Rica, Guatemala, Mexico, Argentina, Columbia, Spanish as a second language and thus far I don't have a favorite. More educated speakers are often easier for me to understand. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 53 of 63 18 May 2013 at 4:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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Agreed. I'd much rather listen to your accent, Brian, than those folks on NPR who fake a British accent to sound more educated.
The whole concept of prestige is based on the perceiver, not the person/thing being perceived. It is like asking what is the best tasting beer. Prestige, taste, beauty etc cannot be quantified in any meaningful way because the thing being measured changes with each data point. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5961 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin | Message 54 of 63 18 May 2013 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
I listen to NPR regularly and I've never heard this. Have any examples? 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5957 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 55 of 63 19 May 2013 at 7:29am | IP Logged | |||||
While I agree of course with your general premise concerning most things, as far as the best tasting beer is concerned, that confidently can be determined objectively: Crannóg Back Hand of God Stout. good luck finding it outside of BC A couple of these and the discussion as to prestigious accents will either cease to seem as important, or come to blows. Edited by Spanky on 19 May 2013 at 7:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| BrianDeAlabama Groupie United States Joined 4520 days ago 89 posts - 113 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 56 of 63 19 May 2013 at 7:45am | IP Logged | |||||
Listen to NPR then any other talk radio and there is a recognizable difference n accent. NPR has much more monotoned speakers than most talk radio it seems. I don't know about the British accent but the impression that is given by media in general seems to be the neutral accent is more desirous than a true accent. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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