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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 81 of 139 31 August 2013 at 9:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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My point was they don't even promote their own supplementary resources. In such case, it is not for free at all. If you are raising your own gain, you will hardly have to pay yourself for advertising.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 82 of 139 31 August 2013 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yeah I was responding to the point about "further reading" at the end of a chapter.
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 83 of 139 31 August 2013 at 11:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, that could be very easy to put into the complementary online materials many publishers make these days. An online page is much easier to keep up to day. And it is no free advertising as long as you are pointing to youtube, wikipedia, lyricstraining etc. And for the rest, they could even take money for it as long as the link is relevant. I honestly wouldn't care.
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| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5555 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 84 of 139 31 August 2013 at 11:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm all for iguanamon's idea of a Star Trek type "holodeck" for language immersion. Perhaps those clever guys at CERN can refocus their efforts in a new direction and turn this into a reality within our lifetime. ;)
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 85 of 139 01 September 2013 at 12:42am | IP Logged | ||
Alternatively, you put on a Virtual Reality headset, and experience a variety of scenarios, complete with sound, vision, smell, touch and taste, and virtual people who will react to your attempts to speak with them. Kind of "Virtual Benny", if you will... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 86 of 139 01 September 2013 at 12:45am | IP Logged | ||
We've been talking about including links in books quite a bit, but in reality, that's a really impractical solution because the web changes so quickly. You'd basically have to keep tabs on all the links -- or keep getting emails from readers who want to tell that this or that link no longer works -- and then update the links every time you publish a new version, IF you ever do. In 5 years' time, what do you think's going to happen to your links?!? I think an alternative solution is to suggest songs, artists, movies, books, magazines, newspapers, etc., and let the reader do his own search. Of course, you could have only one link to a page that you keep updating, but that's still a lot of work -- that might be fine for a large company, but not so reasonable for an independent author. And even for the large company, there's still the issue of time: they're not going to keep updating links for a book that was sold 10 years prior... The decision to include links implies that you are publishing a book that's going to be outdated and will require constant upkeep for a long time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 87 of 139 01 September 2013 at 1:04am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, I thought of this originally too even though I've fallen to the links idea, no idea how.
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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5261 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French) | Message 88 of 139 01 September 2013 at 2:50am | IP Logged | ||
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Routledge's Colloquial is using a website for complementary materials, including exercises, for their Colloquial Portuguese of Brazil 2 course: Routledge Colloquial Portuguese Page.
Transparent Language has dedicated language blog sites for the language courses that they have Transparent Portuguese Blog. This seems to work the other way around. The blog is there to entice you to order the course. The original FSI website has suspended their own forum and is linking people to HTLAL instead- complimentary material? As has been stated, Rosetta Stone is headed in a similar direction with web use as well. Granted, the links I've provided are nowhere near what I am talking about but it's a start. Yes, there's a fair bit of work involved in maintaining a website but it is much less expensive to maintain it than to design it. This may be cost and time prohibitive for a one-man shop author/publisher, like arekkusu, but it's not that much trouble for a larger company to do. I agree that publishing links at the end of each page in a printed book will not work. Creating a complimentary website is the way to go. The website would compliment with links, tutorials on Anki, L/R, podcasts, shadowing, tutors and language exchanges, exercises and self-tests, perhaps even a forum and a facility for TL speakers to interact with English-speaking learners. This would be a huge boon to average joe learners and iut would engage them more with the the TL than what they are doing now. For everyone who finds this forum and puts up with its slowness and quirks, there may be 20 who don;t and won't. The links should go on the associated website and be updated monthly or quarterly (clearly letting the user know that this is not done in real time, eg; last updated on such and such a date). When the book is deemed to be no longer profitable, the site can stay up as a legacy, clearly informing readers that it is no lonbger actively maintained. The site doesn't need to be overloaded with links, on the contrary, less can and should be more. Think quality over quantity. This is the future. It's what a lot of us are already doing and have been doing here on HTLAL. A lot of the general public would do the same, if they only knew how and where to look. It could be said that HTLAL is the place to look, for me and the rest of us that's true, however; there area lot of folks who would like- "just the facts" and not have to sort through (to them) the noise to get there. Edited by iguanamon on 01 September 2013 at 3:01am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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