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druckfehler
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 Message 41 of 119
09 December 2013 at 2:07pm | IP Logged 
Wow, you've been reading a lot! I wish I had the motivation to consistently read a couple of pages each day...

Are you going to participate in TAC 2014? I think it would be great to have you in the Korean team!
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Tarko
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 Message 42 of 119
10 December 2013 at 12:39am | IP Logged 
Honestly, I'm all about multitasking. I do my language reading while I'm sitting on an exercise bike. Haha. Plus my goals for each language requires a lot of reading. I want to go to grad school for Korean Literature (국어국문학과) and my goal for French/most of my future languages is to obtain reading and listening fluency. Well, that's my goal for the time being. We'll see if that changes in the future... :)

I'm thinking about participating! I don't know what exactly it requires, so I'll look into it. It seems pretty popular on the forums, though, so maybe it would be a good way to force myself to study on a more regular basis.
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druckfehler
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 Message 43 of 119
10 December 2013 at 2:01am | IP Logged 
Studying Korean literature sounds exciting! It should be a great way to perfect your knowledge of the language.

Tarko wrote:
I'm thinking about participating! I don't know what exactly it requires, so I'll look into it. It seems pretty popular on the forums, though, so maybe it would be a good way to force myself to study on a more regular basis.

Basically, TAC means that you commit to keeping your log (and presumably studying) regularly throughout the year, as well as reading the logs of your team mates. There might be extra parts like challenges or Skype meetings or other things, but every team decides that for themselves. The goal is to stay committed and get some support and motivation from the team.

Edited by druckfehler on 10 December 2013 at 2:03am

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Tarko
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 Message 44 of 119
10 December 2013 at 7:38am | IP Logged 
Well, it looks like I signed up for the TAC. Go team Korean! :)
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Tarko
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 Message 45 of 119
16 December 2013 at 1:47pm | IP Logged 
Korean
What I Did
- Seogang 4A
- Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone vol.2: 96-152
- Iyagi #10
- Yonsei Reading 3: 1달러짜리 공연
- reviewed 서강 한국어 1A, 1B, 2A

Vocabulary
- Sogang 4A: 28
- Iyagi #10: 6
- Yonsei Reading 3: 22

Grammar
-을 수밖에 없다 - "to have no other choice but to..."
-> 6번 버스를 놓처서 택시를 탈 수밖에 없어요. I missed the #6 bus so I had no other choice than to take a taxi.

-ㄴ다면 (nouns: 라면) - "if something were to happen..." (rough translation)
Describes a hypothetical situation in contrast to what has already happened, or to situations that have not yet occurred. 겠어요, 을 거예요, 을 텐데 often occur in the following clause.
-> 같이 살다면 진우가 자주 요리할 거 . If we were to live together, Jinwoo would cook a lot.
-> 고등학교 때 공부를 많이 했다면 SNU에 다닐 수 있었을 텐데. If I had studied a lot in high school I could have attended SNU (Seoul National University).


It's been a really busy week but I managed to do a lot of studying, while simultaneously neglecting free time. How do other people manage to study and also have a life? I don't get it. I certainly didn't have this problem in university... but then again, I hardly studied then, so it doesn't count. :)

I've also been talking pretty frequently to a Korean friend on the phone, so I've been getting a lot of speaking practice. I'm not amazing or anything, but I think the practice is doing me good.

Oh, my big news: I registered for the January 19 TOPIK exam! I am going to take the 중급. I am... optimistic? Maybe? Due to my upcoming trip/various commitments I won't be able to study as much as I'd like to over the next few weeks, but I'm going to give it a go.


French
What I Did
- New French With Ease Active: 74-81
- Using French Passive: 2-9
- Hunger Games: 82-182

The speakers in Using French have sped up the pace a bit, which is good. I'm not sure how I like the inexact translations that are being provided. Now, I am fully aware that you can't translate everything perfectly into another language, but some of the translations given are a little too rough, I think. But what do I know?

Hunger Games is going quite well. According to my Kindle I'm about 50% of the way through the book, which is terrific. I'm on pace to finish by the end of the month. Plus I understand quite a bit – and the French-French dictionary provided is working well for most of the words I've been looking up.

Edited by Tarko on 16 December 2013 at 1:48pm

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druckfehler
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 Message 46 of 119
16 December 2013 at 4:05pm | IP Logged 
Good luck for TOPIK Intermediate! It's definitely doable, but I guess it depends mostly on your vocabulary knowledge. There's a lot of useful material out there to prepare. I'd recommend the TOPIK word list which tell you the frequently used vocabulary and doing a couple of practice tests.
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Tarko
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 Message 47 of 119
17 December 2013 at 12:43am | IP Logged 
Thanks, druckfehler! My tutor gave me the TOPIK word/grammar lists, but they're kind of
overwhelming. Like, where do you even start? I almost think it would be better to keep
doing what I've been doing. Learning 50 words and 1-2 new grammatical points a week is
pretty decent.

I do plan to do a few practice tests, but I sort of want to go into the test without
preparing too much, you know? I just want to see what my level is without cramming for
the test. Then again, passing the TOPIK would mean that I'd have a better chance at
getting the scholarship I want to apply for. (angst)
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druckfehler
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 Message 48 of 119
17 December 2013 at 1:06am | IP Logged 
It's definitely a huge study load... But there are several ways to optimise your chances without doing the whole thing, I think.

Do you have the official word list? If that is the case, have a look at the later sections (they did a first selection of the common words, I think). In there you find numbers for the most frequent words. I would try to learn at least those with over 50 occurrences, maybe those with over 25 if you have the time (you'll probably know many of the really frequent ones anyway).

I actually did a vocabulary/sentence deck for 1/3 of the list when I was studying for TOPIK (didn't get around to the rest, but it was enough to greatly improve my understanding of the test). If you use Anki, it might be useful for you, I uploaded it and posted a link somewhere on my log (check the TOC on the first page).

Regarding grammar, I found it beneficial to look closely at the past fill-in-missing-words exercises. You will see common combinations repeating a lot and if you learn those you have a good chance at doing well with these questions that award a lot of points in the writing section.

Apart from that, I also think continuing to study as you're doing now is a sensible plan. If you know what to expect in terms of test format, that's already a big advantage.


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