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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5339 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 33 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | ||
I have never met someone who was Finnish-Swedish, or even Finnish speaking Swedish as a foreign language who did not understand me, or whom I did not understand. Danish of course is a whole other kettle of fish, as they hardly understand themselves :-) I was told today that Danish children use 6 months longer to learn to speak than Swedish and Norwegian children, because it is so difficult to learn the pronunciation. Who is making the arguments about BCSM? Linguists or people who for political reasons want every nation to have their own distinct language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4712 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 34 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Linguists who for political reasons want the languages to be separate (these exist
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7161 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 35 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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Not to mention politicians and ordinary people who subscribe to the thought that linguistic divergence or linguistic division corresponds well with ethnic delineations...
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4627 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 36 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wasn't it all just called Serbocroat back in the days of Yugoslavia? A Serbian told me they can understand
Croatian easily but apparently Slovenian is rather different. Swiss German is probably further away from standard German than what is the case with some languages that have been politically rebadged. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5458 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 37 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | ||
True enough, but some of the Swedes living and working here do at least use some Norwegian words and expressions. I also know a couple of Swedes who sound more Norwegian than Swedish after living here for decades. However, it is not much different from Norwegians moving to another town or another part of the country and then gradually lose their original dialect. In fact, it is actually hard to think of Swedes as foreigners. Edited by tractor on 11 October 2013 at 7:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7161 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 38 of 299 11 October 2013 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes. Techincally it was called Serbo-Croatian (srpskohrvatski) or Croato-Serbian (hrvatskosrpski). The sequence of the elements took on undue importance because the former placed "Serbo" first which Serbs liked while Croats preferred the latter arrangement. In any case when it comes to dealing with multilingualism on a resume I discount those who list parts of something pluricentric even if on the surface, the number of names thrown about could impress the uninformed. E.g. - Candidate 1: American English, British English, Canadian English, Indian English (for real buddy? Get lost) - Candidate 2: English, Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian (bilingual to me, not pentalingual) - Candidate 3: English, Serbo-Croatian (same as candidate 2 but doesn't try to puff up the resume - I like that) - Candidate 4: English, Czech, Slovak (trilingual - Czech and Slovak are close but not as close as sometimes thought or presented) - Candidate 5: English, Spanish, Cantonese, Mandarin (tetralingual - despite being called "dialects" by Chinese, being called as such can be misleading and overstate the mutual intelligibility which I think Mike Campbell (glossika) has likened to the mutual intelligibility of Italian and Spanish) - Candidate 6a: English, Hindi, Urdu (bilingual but tricky because Hindu and Urdu colloquially are very similar to the point where native speakers may not always conclude that the other speaker is speaking a "different" language. In formal registers, Hindi and Urdu are more divergent especially in vocabulary and then there's the trickiness with script since Hindi uses only Devanagari while Urdu uses only modified Perso-Arabic script) - Candidate 6b: English, Hindustani (see 6a) 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5396 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 39 of 299 11 October 2013 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||
Something like this could be legit for someone applying to, say, an international call center that would like its reps to be able to make callers believe they're calling in-country or for espionage/acting/etc. The standard in accent and word choice would need to be quite high to be able to list it as a skill. But yeah, otherwise taking advantage of a potential employer's ignorance of the intricacies of language is ethically not sound. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Oheao Diglot Newbie Canada Joined 4173 days ago 31 posts - 33 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Mandarin, Greek | Message 40 of 299 11 October 2013 at 8:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think that the standards of Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and Montenegrin are all based
on the exact same dialect, so I would say that they're more similar than the Scandinavian languages. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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