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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6636 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 21 12 December 2013 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For me going back to the older lesson takes the fun out of it :P Assimil is mostly below my level in the languages I mentioned, and I don't normally use courses so it's more about getting an overview. If a lesson is fun and important, I can do it twice. If it's important but not fun, I'll just note the important stuff and look for a more fun source to practise it :P
I was also talking about books, though. I find I can remember my spot if I start from the beginning, but if I start randomly I'd have to remember where I started and where I stopped. And if I stopped because I was losing interest temporarily, I don't want to read that part again :P I guess there are various kinds of "chaotic" people? I basically love coming back to things and completing them. I don't enjoy completing from A to Z but for me the thought "I'll go back to this one day" is comforting and relieving, not stressful and ominous :) Edited by Serpent on 12 December 2013 at 11:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lykeio Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4283 days ago 120 posts - 357 votes | Message 10 of 21 12 December 2013 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I honestly feel anxiety about leaving textbooks unfinished and often if I go back I then
start from the very beginning. This means that when life gets in the way I keep reviewing the same thing even when I understand the material and know I must move on. Learning German, despite not being a particularly difficult language, was an absolute grind for me because I must have went back to the same textbook five or six times until I finally I was forced to go through an academic reading course. Doing a textbook from start to finish was, finally!, mentally liberating. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4704 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 21 13 December 2013 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
Well for Kanji I use RTK and it tracks things for me.
I keep a spreadsheet and then track activities on a day-to-day basis. So today I drove in to work and listened to some Japanese dialogues for 1h09m (based on the clokc in the car) so that's one line. I'll do the same when I go home. Sometimes I might do some SRS or read a news site at work, in which case I keep track of that (usually emailing myself at home at the end of the activity) and those activities go on the spreadsheet too. For longer term tracking, for example, which lessons in a book have I worked through, which have I added the vocab to Anki, which have I made notes on the grammar, then I do something similar to your spreadsheet. Except I track it using a web page on my server at home. At the end of the week (or maybe sometimes during the week) I update the page to note that I've gone through such-and-such and SRS'd the vocab or sentences or whatever. I colour-code the cells so "green" means "done" and that looks quite nice and encouraging. I'm careful not to add pages too early (i.e. I've not yet added pages for the second set of Minna No Nihongo intermediate text books yet as I've not started them and I don't want to be faced with a page of depressing yellow "not yet done"). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6636 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 12 of 21 13 December 2013 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Oh that's too detailed for me :P
I've found this tool so far, the extensions for importing folder trees/lists of files sound good. Now if this was an actual file explorer program... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6636 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 21 13 December 2013 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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And this one seems even better! Maybe the only downside is that it doesn't show the standard file info, like size, length etc. And I think you can't just add files to the list, they need to be in the same folder :)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4746 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 14 of 21 14 December 2013 at 9:59am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't really track my progress other than "sounds a lot better than it used to".
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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5265 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 15 of 21 26 December 2013 at 1:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The only way I track my progress (outside structured course or activities, which usually provide their own means) is reviewing old stuff I wrote, etc. I usually spot lots of mistakes I think I no longer make, so it works for me. So it works. So everyone just do it ;)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6636 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 16 of 21 26 December 2013 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This thread isn't really about measuring progress in general but about tracking your progress through specific materials. And let me report that I'm quite satisfied with the tool I mentioned above.
Now I wonder if there are media players that keep stats of the time spent listening and ideally can show you which tracks these were... Edited by Serpent on 26 December 2013 at 2:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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