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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5266 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 17 of 21 26 December 2013 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
But that's my point. Usually, courses or stuff made by people who felt "measuring" progress was important or, more specifically, should have its own spotlight time, provided their own means to do so. I've never had the need to do it when working with non-course materials, or find "better" ways to do it when there was one, but I'm certainly happy you found tools that might be useful should the case arise.
On Windows systems, I specifically avoid Windows Media Player because it spies on you in that very sense. You can even make playlists of "songs I never listen to" (my guess being you can only do that once). It's as fun as it's spooky. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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But does it show you the time spent?
It's not about attempting to measure my progress in the language this way... I just like to know whether I've read every single poem in a collection, for example. I prefer not to add books to goodreads if I've only read them chaotically and probably never read the whole thing. Chaotic reading also means I miss out on that wonderful moment when you have just 10 pages left in a small book, or 80 in a big one. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LearnerChaotic Newbie United States Joined 4144 days ago 4 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 19 of 21 05 January 2014 at 4:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well my favorite thing is native content. When I consume native content, I don't mind
repeating some reading or listening if it's content I like (this is also true for content in my native English). So there's no need to keep track when I am consuming content, except for perhaps a bookmark in a juvenile fiction book. As far as courses, I either keep bookmarks or skip around, depending on the course. I often get a feel (based on my native content reading) for the next grammar topic I want to learn and I set out to learn just that chapter. I track progress by how much I can understand and how well I can express myself at my weekly Meetup. I also check the grade level of the books I am comfortable reading (right now I'm between a second grader and a fourth grader in my TL). I'm not really working on writing so there's no writing for me to track, but eventually I want to look into lang8 for writing. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
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What about the content that gets boring from the repetition? That loses its punchline? I basically hate spending time on something only to realize I've already been here and to stop midway without even repeating the most fun part. I guess it's about not being in control: I want to choose what is worth one more go and what isn't.
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I am a chaotic learner when it comes to choosing when to do what, but I have a certain system in what I do and how - and I don't need more than that. Counting hours or pages is not my cup of tea. But it can't be a secret that I have done a number of vocabulary estimates, both because vocabulary size is one of the few quantifiable estimates of my level (passively), but also because looking through dictionaries with a purpose actually refreshes my vocabulary and adds to it. So it isn't just wasted time.
If I want to know my level in reading I can just pick up a magazine or read a page in Wikipedia - that will tell me without mercy where I stand. And my active level can be measured on the ease with which I can speak and think, but the quality of my utterances can only be tested when I meet native speakers and watch them struggle to understand what I say. Or - if everything has gone well - respond without undue delay or attempts to change language. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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