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| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5207 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 33 of 164 20 December 2013 at 10:52am | IP Logged | ||
Che bello - io sono stato due volte a Bologna e adoro la città! Ed è anche ben collegata: da Bologna si può andare facilmente a Firenze, Milano, Venezia... anche per raggiungere Roma ci si mette soltanto un paio d'ore. Spero di tornarci l'anno prossimo! Poi, rimpiango di non aver fatto un anno all'estero: se volevo potevo andare in Germania o in Italia ma all'epoca l'idea non mi interessava... è incredibile come le cose cambiano! (it goes without saying that anything I write in Italian is up for correction!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| suzukaze Triglot Senior Member Italy bit.ly/1bGm459 Joined 4602 days ago 186 posts - 254 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, Spanish Studies: German, French, Swedish, Japanese | Message 34 of 164 20 December 2013 at 11:57am | IP Logged | ||
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@garyb You didn't make a lot of mistakes. I'm only going to point out a couple of things :)
We don't really use hyphens, in this case you could either replace it with a comma or add an exclamation mark after "che bello" and then start a new sentence. "stato due volte a Bologna e adoro la città": no grammar mistakes here, but it would sound more natural to say something like "…stato due volte a Bologna e la adoro" (that "la" refers to Bologna). Having both Bologna and città wouldn't sound redundant if you write a longer sentence, though. For example: "Sono stato due volte a Bologna e trovo che sia una città bellissima". "Poi, rimpiango di": no comma here. And instead of "poi" I would start the sentence with "e" or say "Rimpiango anche…". That "anche" links what you said before (I hope to visit Italy again) to what you are saying now (I regret…). You could also merge the two sentences into one. "se volevo potevo andare": here it would be better to use another tense, the condizionale passato because you are talking about an action that you could have done, but didn't do and, since it's past, cannot do any more. The sentence becomes: "Se avessi voluto sarei potuto andare" or, to make it shorter, "Sarei potuto andare". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4889 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 35 of 164 24 December 2013 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ciao ragazzi!
And that's about all I know. I'll be observing your team for the first part of the year, at least. Or, as Kerrie put it, stalking (that should be a new category). I studied some Italian a couple years ago for a trip to Rome, and loved the rhythms of the language. I have another trip to Florence for a week this Spring, so I'll be trying to refresh the language & hopefully progress a bit further in it. My initial resources will be FSI FAST and Pimsleur. Sometime in January I'll have to make the choice about how to proceed. Option 1, I'll go with a vocabulary-heavy course like Living Language (I loved their new Japanese course), and just focus on being a good tourist. Option 2, I'll go with Assimil and aim for a deeper understanding of the language, with the intent of continuing on past my travels. My log is here: kanewai 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| agta Diglot Groupie Poland Joined 5524 days ago 43 posts - 53 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 36 of 164 24 December 2013 at 10:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ciao a tutti!
If you accept me as a team member, I'll be happy to join the team. This year I'm going to focus more on Italian. I'm currently at about A2 level and my goal is to reach B1+. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5207 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 37 of 164 27 December 2013 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've updated the members list now and added kanewai and agta. If any people or log links are missing then tell me; I'm a bit busy and disorganised at the moment!
Thanks a lot for the feedback suzukaze! Looks like my knowledge of these "informal" conditional forms isn't quite as good as I thought. I know the "by the book" ones well, and they work quite the same as in English and French, but I read and hear the "informal" ones using the imperfect indicative quite a lot. For example my friend in Bologna said that she would have joined me on my trip to Venice if she hadn't had an exam to study for, and I'm quite sure she said "se non avevo l'esame venivo con te". But this was the day before the Venice trip, so the "by the book" equivalent could have been "se non avessi l'esame verrei con te" as opposed to the "se non avessi avuto... sarei venuta..." that would have been appropriate after the fact. The book "Io non ho paura" also makes heavy use of these forms. My grammar book covers all this so I might need to revise it! Edited by garyb on 27 December 2013 at 3:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6061 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 38 of 164 27 December 2013 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Scusa, Gary, non ti ho dato l'indirizzo del mio log. Eccolo.
By the way, the Italian language is tricky, because it has to live with all the dialects it superceded some 150 years ago. Some of these dialects are so different that they gained recognition as languages (of course, part of it is politics, so no more here). Anyway, we must be conscient that actual spoken Italian will differ from region to region, and some of it is not proper Italian at all. Disclaimer: this comment is not connected with suzukaze's corrections in any way. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5395 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 39 of 164 27 December 2013 at 9:02pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'll continue using my old log. There's a link on the first page to the start of TAC 2014. I probably won't be focusing on Italian until 2015, but I"ll be watching you guys anyways. :)
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| Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6061 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical) | Message 40 of 164 30 December 2013 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's hard to believe this team is falling behind when it comes to choosing a name.
Come on, people! This is the Italian team! We can choose a thousand names that will identify us beyond a shadow of a doubt! Just to get the ball rolling, I propose team Dante. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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