Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 65 of 117 21 July 2014 at 12:02am | IP Logged |
I put up a post on my blog about working with a tutor when you're brand-new to a language, using some examples
and photos from my current Tagalog study:
working with a language tutor
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kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4845 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese
| Message 66 of 117 22 July 2014 at 7:50am | IP Logged |
Stelle wrote:
I put up a post on my blog about working with a tutor when you're brand-new to a language, using some examples
and photos from my current Tagalog study:
working with a language tutor |
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Stelle, just wanted to say that post is awesome! I went to it when you posted it on Twitter over the weekend. You gave me some great ideas for doing conversation cards; hope you don't mind me using them! I'll put the copyright if you want! :) And it's good to see your Tagalog coming along so well!
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 67 of 117 23 July 2014 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
kujichagulia wrote:
Stelle, just wanted to say that post is awesome! I went to it when you posted it on Twitter over the weekend. You
gave me some great ideas for doing conversation cards; hope you don't mind me using them! I'll put the copyright
if you want! :) And it's good to see your Tagalog coming along so well! |
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Thanks for the feedback! Of course you can create conversation cards - I'm glad you find the idea useful. I've used
conversation cards in various ways (and at various levels) for years with my French students, but this is the first time
that I've adapted them for use as a student. I really like using them!
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 68 of 117 24 July 2014 at 10:42pm | IP Logged |
I've found a potentially interesting source of Tagalog fiction: Wattpad, a self-publishing platform. There are dozens
of free, ongoing stories being posted in lots of different languages.
Wattpad - Filipino
Potential advantages: lots of different stories, easily accessible, colloquial language
Potential disadvantages: I wouldn't know if someone was a really crappy writer
I haven't yet decided if the giant disadvantage is giant enough to keep me from trying.
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 69 of 117 01 August 2014 at 4:43pm | IP Logged |
I've finished lesson 7 of Tara Mag-Tagalog Tayo and lesson 6 of Teach Yourself Filipino. This month, instead of
doing both simultaneously, I alternated a lesson from TMTT (which took much longer) with a lesson from TY (one
day per dialogue - so usually 2 or 3 days). This was much less stressful and flowed much better for me.
I spent a week with my Tagalog-speaking inlaws. It wasn't *exactly* immersion, since they still mostly spoke
English, but when they did speak Tagalog, I was able to pick out quite a lot of words. I was also able to make
simple requests and statements:
This is delicious!
Do you want to go to the store?
Where are the dogs?
My Tagalog-speaking family was very easy to impress. Haha! They introduced me with the words "...and she
speaks Tagalog" every time. Tagalog isn't an easy language. There are some things that are easy (loan words,
spelling), but the grammar and a lot of the vocabulary can make your head spin. But Tagalog-speakers think that
their language is easy and tell you right away that you sound like a Filipina even if you can only speak a few
words - it's extremely encouraging.
It's funny because a lot of people pride themselves on speaking "the world's hardest language". Filipinos seem to
almost universally think that their language is the easiest one in the world to learn, despite the fact that it's rated
a category 4 language by the FSI. Tagalog-speakers are a pretty cool and fun bunch.
Notes on grammar and sentence structure
I've *finally* learned some verbs. Yay! It makes simple communication much more attainable! I've only learned
mag- verbs, and how to conjugate them as completed actions, incomplete actions and contemplated actions.
to clean: maglinis
completed: naglinis
Naglinis siya ng bahay noong Martes. (He cleaned the house on Tuesday.)
incomplete: naglilinis
Naglilinis siya ng bahay tuwing Martes. (He cleans the house every Tuesday.)
contemplated: maglilinis
Maglilinis siya ng bahay sa Martes. (He will clean the house on Tuesday.)
Six-Week Challenge
So, despite the fact that last time I said I was done with the 6WC, I've decided to sign up again. I want to make
quicker progress over the next month, since i'll be on holidays for most of August. I've decided that I'll only be
logging Tagalog minutes. I won't log any Spanish minutes at all, since I was getting burned out with timing
myself.
My goal for the next six weeks is to use my plan for Spanish when I first started. Every single day, I will:
- listen to something
- read something
- write something
- talk to someone
- practice
vocabulary
I'm hoping to make some serious progress!
edited because typos hurt my eyes
Edited by Stelle on 01 August 2014 at 4:46pm
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 70 of 117 02 August 2014 at 2:38am | IP Logged |
For the rest of the six-week challenge, I'll be doing (near) daily updates with a breakdown of how I spent my
time.
talk to someone
not today
listen to something (32 minutes)
Teach Yourself Filipino, unit 7 dialogue 1
listened to 3 translated Frozen songs with subtitles
read something (10 minutes)
spent 10 minutes reading through my notebook
write something (15 minutes)
wrote a short text about Canada
scriptorium: dialogue from TY, four (very short) dialogues from Kalye Speak
practice vocabulary (17 minutes)
anki
memrise
other
listened to a Kalye Speak podcast (doesn't count for the six week challenge, since it's mostly in English)
TOTAL TIME TODAY: 74 MINUTES
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 71 of 117 02 August 2014 at 11:57pm | IP Logged |
talk to someone (10 minutes)
timed practice with JP - no English allowed!
listen to something (17 minutes)
listened to Tagalog version of Let It Go, once while reading English and once while singing along
reviewed old dialogues from various courses
read something (12 minutes)
read dialogues in my notebook
write something (22 minutes)
worked through some of the grammar and writing exercises in unit 7 of Teach Yourself
practice vocabulary (13 minutes)
anki and memrise
other (30 minutes)
I did lesson 1 of Pimsleur. I know that I said that I wouldn't do Pimsleur, since "no one talks like that" - but I was
able to get the first 15 lessons for free. Even if the language is a bit more formal, I figure it will still help me
internalize sentence structure. It was challenging, but fun!
TOTAL TIME TODAY: 104 MINUTES
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Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog
| Message 72 of 117 04 August 2014 at 4:44am | IP Logged |
We're finally home after a 17 hour road trip today! I still managed 33 minutes of Tagalog:
talk to someone: nope!
listen to something: Bumitaw twice (once while reading bilingual text, once while singing along)
write something: short text about the languages I speak/am learning
read something: twice - bilingual text that I made from Why The Sky is High (on YouTube, by Evan's Nanay)
practice vocabulary: memrise, anki
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