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guillaume
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 Message 41 of 44
17 April 2005 at 1:10am | IP Logged 
heartburn wrote:

There's been some talk about digitizing FSI and making it freely available. I was concerned about the negative impact such a thing would have on commercial publishers. But after reading Stacey's account of the publisher mindset, I don't really care anymore. I like your idea.


Does anybody know if it got any further ? was a format established ? How will the files be shared ? I would say bittorrent or DC++ would be the best (bittorrent is better and offers better control but dc++ is easier to set up)

Because it would be a good start. And if there were people willing to get together to create a course, I don't see why not integrating in it some FSI material since it's not copyrighted.

Now about the episode with Stacey, it convinced me more that publishers and authors of language course face pressures that are not compatible with making a product that fits our need.

Edited by guillaume on 17 April 2005 at 1:12am

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heartburn
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 Message 42 of 44
17 April 2005 at 1:43am | IP Logged 
alang wrote:
I applaud the forum to continue to dig deeper inside and look for real substance when it comes to courses.

Alang, I'm glad you posted. Yesterday, I was thinking about how great this site is. While I am sorry that our conversation with Stacey didn't go better, I think we managed to gain some very important insight into the industry. The search for Ziad Fazah is on. People are working on free digital versions of the FSI programs. We're not all just sitting around commiserating about the quality of this course or that course. Things are really happening here!

arnz wrote:
of course maybe we can approach these people differently next time.

From my perspective, she made the first move when she posted a review of her own product on Amazon. But I can certainly see where inviting her here could be considered the first move.

In any case, do you think we would have learned so much if she had she come here under happier circumstances? The best news reporters are not the ones who toss softball questions. I think we got the dirt because we were a little tough on her. I'm sorry she felt bad about it, but look at all we learned!

guillaume wrote:
Does anybody know if it got any further?

Why not revive the thread?

guillaume wrote:
it convinced me more that publishers and authors of language course face pressures that are not compatible with making a product that fits our need.

Me too!
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arnz
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 Message 43 of 44
17 April 2005 at 4:02pm | IP Logged 
Authors are allowed to review and explain their products, in fact Amazon encouraged it. You have every right to give a negative review and she had every right to explain her side, in fact, the fact that she told us who she was in the review was a good sign I thought, she wasn't trying to be anonymous.

In her rebuttal on Amazon, she already told you that she disagreed with your opinion, I think it should have been left at that. Or you should have privately emailed her.

You're a great contributor to this site heartburn, but in this topic I just can't agree with the way it was handled. Anyway, this thread has been contentious enough, maybe its time to lock it.
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heartburn
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 Message 44 of 44
17 April 2005 at 8:11pm | IP Logged 
arnz wrote:
Or you should have privately emailed her.

I'm not sure. You may be right.

arnz wrote:
maybe its time to lock it.

I agree.


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