schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5565 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 113 of 126 26 November 2014 at 8:36pm | IP Logged |
I think a lot of the difficulty in language learning is just getting used to it.
Learning grammar and vocab sets you up, but you need to see enough examples to make
your brain accept it. To me, that sentence just looks totally weird, but in fact we use
the same construction in English.
Pure future perfect:
"Bob will have completed the project by the weekend."
Used to convey a fair degree of cerainty (or wishful thinking)
"Bob will have completed the project (last week)"
In German (like in English), werden, müssen, sollen, können, könnten (kon II) express
increqasing doubt (I think that's in the right order) like in English, will, musst,
should, could, may/might.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4087 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 114 of 126 18 February 2015 at 11:22pm | IP Logged |
From Assimil.
1. Welche deutschen Vornamen kennt ihr denn so?
2. Welchen Vornamen kennst du denn, mein Junge?
Q: What made Welche turn into Welchen in sentence 2?
Edited by Gemuse on 18 February 2015 at 11:22pm
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 115 of 126 19 February 2015 at 12:03am | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
From Assimil.
1. Welche deutschen Vornamen kennt ihr denn so?
2. Welchen Vornamen kennst du denn, mein Junge?
Q: What made Welche turn into Welchen in sentence 2? |
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Sentence 1 is plural ("die Vornamen"), sentence 2 is singular ("der Vorname").
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4087 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 116 of 126 19 February 2015 at 2:16pm | IP Logged |
Thanks! So der Vorname is a weak noun?
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 117 of 126 19 February 2015 at 3:53pm | IP Logged |
Yes, just like "Name", from which it is derived.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4087 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 118 of 126 24 February 2015 at 8:06am | IP Logged |
Thanks, didn't know Name was also weak!
More Qs..
1. Q on seperable verbs: is "aufhoren" the verb used in the following sentence, and if so, why doesn't auf come at the end?
Hör jetzt endlich auf mit deiner dummen Fragerei.
2. Der Lärm, den die Kinder machten, war nicht auszuhalten.
Is this a passive sentence? There is no werden here. If not, what is the subject?
3. Daher kam also sein komisches Gefühl.
Is sein a verb here? If so, why in the middle of the sentence?
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4849 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 119 of 126 24 February 2015 at 7:21pm | IP Logged |
1. This is slightly colloquial. In Standard German, the correct word order would be: "Hör jetzt endlich mit deiner dummen Fragerei auf."
2. No, it's an active sentence. "Der Lärm" is subect of "war nicht auszuhalten", but there is a relative clause ("den die Kinder machten") in between. So, the meaning is: "The noise the children made was unbearable."
3. No, it's a possessive pronoun ("his funny feeling").
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daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4526 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 120 of 126 24 February 2015 at 11:32pm | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
1. This is slightly colloquial. In Standard German, the correct word order
would be: "Hör jetzt endlich mit deiner dummen Fragerei auf."
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Since when are extrapositions not correct Standard German?
(or did I misinterpret your post here?)
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