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Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4233 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 1 of 46 11 May 2014 at 11:54am | IP Logged |
Blabbing about languages with tarvos I've thought about learning Greek... in tandem. This may be an absolutely crazy idea for both of us, but after some discussions we decided that we want to make it.
We're not sure how it will go or where will we end up, but that's a kind of self-intrigue which will only help us to move on.
My current level of Greek is equal to 0 except for using some Greek letters when dealing with science stuff.
My goal is to go up as further as it is only possible. You never know where the fate will lead you, maybe I'll end up in Greece one day... so it's better to be prepared for such a things.
List of materials (coming soon)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 2 of 46 11 May 2014 at 1:25pm | IP Logged |
Unlike Divochka, I have some experience with
Greek. I have been there before, it's the
native language of my best friend, I have
learned some phrases, pronunciation and the
alphabet. Greece would be easy to go to for
me.
In short, time to learn it.
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4233 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 3 of 46 11 May 2014 at 6:59pm | IP Logged |
I did a run through Teach Yourself Beginner's Greek Script not paying much of attention to exercises and explanations, in order just to get the initial grasp of the alphabet and pronunciation.
The book begins with just the capital letters which made my life a little bit easier up to the moment when I've discovered that I'll have more of th. The funniest thing is that I should've guessed it since I often encountered English transcriptions with delta (well, sort of delta) and theta. But I didn't and at first I was sure that my weak shoulders will crack under that weight. But then I decided that it's not the end of the world.
Small letters seemed like hell at first, but it's easier already. And I must say that I absolutely adore now they look like. When I swype a Greek word I feel like an artist. And when I try to think how ugly I'll write it...
And, of course, the thing that stuns at first is the amount of words you should know already from your other languages. Similarities to Russian may get to an awful level if to write a word in capitals:
ΣΟΥΠΕΡΜΑΡΚΕΤ - СУПЕРМАРКЕТ - supermarket
ΣΑΛΑΤΑ - САЛАТ - salad
ΣΟΥΒΕΝΙΡ - СУВЕНИР - souvenir
ΤΑΒΕΡΝΑ - ТАВЕРНА - tavern
and so on.
To sum it up: things aren't that bad as they could be. At least in the matter of the alphabet and the pronunciation. I can't swallow and understand all that in one evening but I should get over it pretty fast anyway.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 4 of 46 11 May 2014 at 7:09pm | IP Logged |
I would like to add that there are some other
random Greek loans in Russian too. Тетрадь =
τετράδια and кровать = κρεβάτι.
As for me, there are plenty of words that can
be distinguished through some kind of logic,
which helps. I have bought a textbook here in
Romania which is called Greacă fără profesor
and will serve me well.
Edited by tarvos on 11 May 2014 at 7:12pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 5 of 46 11 May 2014 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
Wow I'm excited for you both!!! Good luck!
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| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4233 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 6 of 46 12 May 2014 at 6:13am | IP Logged |
Oh thanks, I can't speak for the other part of this tandem (:P), but I
definitely need it :)
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On a first impression Greek grammar is closer to that of Russian than
to English (after reading the Wikipedia article). I don't want to think
about it more than I should, I just took a Russian textbook to begin
with.
It's called Греческий для детей (Greek for kids) and I honestly don't
care about its title. I read in reviews that it's not important and that
the book gives a good knowledge, well, there is nothing more I need.
Of course this won't be the sole source of studying, I have a pile of
both Russian and English textbooks to look at, but right now I'm
curious what will happen if I'll stick to that particular book.
It's no journey, in the very first lesson a poor kid is to learn the whole
Greek alphabet in both lower and upper cases plus the cursive
writing.
Actually the cursive script provided there does not seem logical to
me in some points and this is the thing I have to check in other
sources first for I intend to use cursive instead of block letters from
now on.
P.S. And yeah, grammar is scary. And I'm scared. But it doesn't mean
that I want to give up straightaway.
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| Penelope Diglot Senior Member Greece Joined 3868 days ago 110 posts - 155 votes Speaks: English, French Studies: Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 7 of 46 12 May 2014 at 9:24am | IP Logged |
ΠΡΟΓΡΑΜΜΑ
Is it in greek or russian letters? I'll never tell :D
Good luck you two!
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| glavkos Triglot Newbie Greece glavkos.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5237 days ago 13 posts - 15 votes Speaks: Greek*, English, Esperanto Studies: Russian
| Message 8 of 46 12 May 2014 at 9:37am | IP Logged |
Good luch to both of you!
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