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iguanamon
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 Message 17 of 73
19 June 2014 at 3:56am | IP Logged 
soclydeza85 wrote:
That's one of those weird quirks of English that I've always thought about. Why is it anyone, someone, everyone, but no one? I can see how easy it is for a non-native speaker to make this mistake.

Agreed. It's an easy mistake to make. Since I've only ever seen this usage online, it strikes me as "wrong" and I keep thinking of an older spelling of "noon" (12:00 pm) with a silent final "e".

urban dictionary wrote:
noone
Meaning "no one". Perhaps inspired by the word "nobody". Most commonly used by people who acquired their literary skills in online chat rooms. ...


It's just a little thing, but I've seen it used by people, primarily second language speakers, who have otherwise outstanding English skills.

Edited by iguanamon on 19 June 2014 at 3:57am

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kanewai
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 Message 18 of 73
19 June 2014 at 5:18am | IP Logged 
Why is it anyone, someone, everyone, but no one?

This is going to stump me.

anyplace, someplace, everyplace or every place, no place
anyway, someway, every way, no way
anybody, somebody, everybody, nobody
anything, something, everything, nothing
anywhere, somewhere, everywhere, nowhere
anyhow, somehow, x, x

I cannot figure the pattern or rule out.
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soclydeza85
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 Message 19 of 73
19 June 2014 at 5:56am | IP Logged 
kanewai wrote:
Why is it anyone, someone, everyone, but no one?

This is going to stump me.

anyplace, someplace, everyplace or every place, no place
anyway, someway, every way, no way
anybody, somebody, everybody, nobody
anything, something, everything, nothing
anywhere, somewhere, everywhere, nowhere
anyhow, somehow, x, x

I cannot figure the pattern or rule out.


Haha, don't blow a gasket on this one, it's probably one of those exceptions that came about randomly during the evolution of the language. I like the way you think though
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Arnaud25
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 Message 20 of 73
19 June 2014 at 7:32am | IP Logged 
A little mistake in french that I hear everyday and that drives me crazy:
"La voilà, l'ascenseur !" (here comes the lift !)
Of course, it's "un ascenseur", a masculine noun, but people treat it as feminine because they hear "la scenseur"...
The worst is of course "Vite, elle est là, l'ascenseur" (Quick, quick, the lift is there). When I hear that, I push the "close" button of the lift :)

Edited by Arnaud25 on 19 June 2014 at 8:03am

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mick33
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 Message 21 of 73
19 June 2014 at 8:29am | IP Logged 
Great topic! I don't like to criticize how other people speak English but there is one question that I can't stand hearing,"Where are you at?" I know this is probably an example of language evolution as it's becoming very common where I live, but I refuse to use it.
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luke
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 Message 22 of 73
19 June 2014 at 9:52am | IP Logged 
mick33 wrote:
Great topic! I don't like to criticize how other people speak English but there is one question that I can't stand hearing,"Where are you at?" I know this is probably an example of language evolution as it's becoming very common where I live, but I refuse to use it.


Or it's child, "Where is you at?"
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luke
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 Message 23 of 73
19 June 2014 at 10:02am | IP Logged 
soclydeza85 wrote:
iguanamon wrote:
One that I see quite often written here on HTLAL (not so much from native English-speakers) is "noone" meaning "no one". "Noone" is incorrect English. I know it's a little thing, but it is a bit irritating.


That's one of those weird quirks of English that I've always thought about. Why is it anyone, someone, everyone, but no  one? I can see how easy it is for a non-native speaker to make this mistake.


Isn't anyone coming?
Isn't someone coming?
Isn't everyone coming?
Isn't ... can't use "no one" - double negative.

Is anyone coming?
Is someone coming?
Is everyone coming?
Is no one coming?" This make me think of phonic rule that would be broken if it were "noone". Double oo sounds like moon, coon, loon, boon.
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Henkkles
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 Message 24 of 73
19 June 2014 at 12:31pm | IP Logged 
When native speakers don't use the genitive subject! This is just particular to lazy speech, most people don't make mistakes like this but I sometimes catch my dad saying things like "se pitää olla" instead of "sen pitää olla" and it drives me up the walls. I know that it still can be understood as a subject because "olla" is an intransitive verb and therefore it can't be mistaken for a subject but it just sounds so wrong.


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