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| Irish_Goon Senior Member United States Joined 6414 days ago 117 posts - 170 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 89 of 95 17 July 2014 at 1:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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There really is no point in engaging a socialist in a discussion anymore about efficiency, or free choice for that matter.
In their alternative universe, they still somehow believe that a group of people sitting in a room making choices for others is more efficient and that it somehow doesn't affect a liberty interest. There is no point to this thread anymore as there hasn't been for several pages now. I'm done. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 90 of 95 17 July 2014 at 2:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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One distraction less. As they say in French: Bon débarras.
Patrick Wilken's correction is duly noted. I would certainly agree that we do not live in a world of perfectly efficient labour markets. The gist of the discussion I think is that finding multilingual workers in the UK and the US is not a big problem for those businesses who need them. But what all these studies claim, I think, is that many businesses could do a better job serving foreign markets with the aid of multilingual workers. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4908 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 91 of 95 17 July 2014 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | ||
It is a nuanced problem, and I think most of the areas of disagreement have been matters of degree, rather than clashes of ideology. It is an interesting topic to some of us, but if you don't enjoy discussing it, Irish Goon, please don't hijack it either. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6702 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 92 of 95 17 July 2014 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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As far as I as a moderator can see, the discussion is still about things that have something to do with languages, and the tone has so far not been a problem so there is no need to intervene. Those members who don't find the theme or the current discussion interesting can hopefully find something else to read.
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| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 93 of 95 17 July 2014 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just got off the phone with a person from a local insurance company, who spoke French, English, Russian and
maybe Ukrainian. It made me think how valuable those language skills are for an insurance company in a market like that of a cosmopolitan city like Montreal. Is this person being paid more for those extra languages? I doubt it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 94 of 95 20 July 2014 at 3:37am | IP Logged | ||
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If there's one industry that values languages, it must be tourism. Here is a link to a video and an short text on the
skyrocketing demand for Russian in the tourist areas of Spain. Russian in Spain 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Presidio Triglot Newbie United States Joined 4580 days ago 39 posts - 150 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, German Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Gulf) | Message 95 of 95 21 July 2014 at 2:21am | IP Logged | ||
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In the United States the ability to speak Spanish is proving as of late to be invaluable for a large number of companies: Satellite and Cable Services, Banking, over-the-phone purchases, Credit Card, Medical, Legal, etc. The Hispanic market is greatly expanding across the United States.
Outside of Medical and Legal though, the need is more for entry and lower level jobs. At higher levels, a full-time need simply isn't as extensive. Contract negotiations and conference calls, but much of the translation is done by separate translation/interpretation companies....and that has worked quite well, so far. As far as the male/female pay gap, it is indeed real. In the U.S. the average is roughly .77 cents for women for every dollar a man earns. But the statistic alone give no real perspective. Men by and large work the dangerous jobs that pay more. Oil field workers, coal mine workers, heavy industry and construction, police, fire and rescue, etc. There are also other high paying jobs where men far outnumber women: Lawyers, professional football/baseball/basketball, corporate level business, science and technology. Conversely, there are occupations where women far outnumber men: teachers, social workers, etc. Unfortunately, those jobs are found on the lower pay scale. Then there is the matter of time gone for maternity leave and post-delivery recovery. Women also are more likely to work part-time or leave the workforce early to focus on the family. To say "the penis" is the only reason of the pay differential is, well...... 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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