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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4887 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 305 of 309 26 September 2014 at 2:34am | IP Logged | |||||
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I scrolled through the English section of the leipzig test. A lot of the phrasing is
awkward (e.g. management of a supply of money: finance) and there were a small number where I question their definitions (e.g. to cover the inner surface of something: line, mount, bet, allocate, comprise, or inspire). Overall, a literate native speaker should ace the test, but I could see how one might know 90% of the words in context and still bomb the test. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7203 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 306 of 309 26 September 2014 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
One thing I note is that Iversen was enough to put Denmark on top for the Average English vocabulary levels by country (non-native speakers). 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lemberg1963 Bilingual Diglot Groupie United States zamishka.blogspot.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4237 days ago 41 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Ukrainian* Studies: French, German, Spanish, Polish | Message 307 of 309 27 September 2014 at 5:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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EMK's proposed method works more or less. Last year of college I took a Spanish I class,
which by my count introduces you to about 800-1000 unique words. After finishing the course I started reading Cien Anos de Soledad with a dictionary and putting in the new vocabulary into Anki. The first hundred pages was time consuming, I was looking up every fifth word. By the time I reached the end of the book I was able to read most of the page without a dictionary. I'm not sure if I recommend doing this however, it was very inefficient. It might be better to just get a Routledge frequency dictionary or a Lonely Planet phrasebook and just Anki everything in there. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4666 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 308 of 309 27 September 2014 at 5:42am | IP Logged | |||||
My results for productive vocabulary in Portuguese: 1000 18/18 2000 16/18 3000 16/18 4000 16/18 5000 17/18 92.2 % Some options are ambiguous, for example you could use either MUITO or MEIO and it would sound perfectly fine. Since, the key to excercises is not given, it is all very relative, and depends on good will of the ''banca examinadora''. It's more of a ''collocation test'' than a frequency-ranked productive vocabulary test. Edited by Medulin on 27 September 2014 at 5:52am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6701 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 309 of 309 28 September 2014 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
Well, I must have had some help of my compatriots. According to the conditions there must be at least 300 respondents from a given country - else that country is excluded from the statistics. So one person can't change much in the results for a whole nation. Btw. I did the test again - this time the result was 40.900 words. But given how much I read in English and how much Anglophone TV I watch that isn't really unexpected. In another thread Ari describes English as not really a foreign language in Sweden, and that certainly also is true in Denmark. But ironically knowledge of other languages is on the way down the drain here. Edited by Iversen on 29 September 2014 at 5:37pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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