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| Lemberg1963 Bilingual Diglot Groupie United States zamishka.blogspot.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4239 days ago 41 posts - 82 votes  Speaks: English*, Ukrainian* Studies: French, German, Spanish, Polish | Message 65 of 67 31 October 2014 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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If this data is correct, 10000 native vocabulary by age 8 is really slow. Doesn't seem
very special to me. Edited by Lemberg1963 on 31 October 2014 at 8:59pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4622 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 66 of 67 02 November 2014 at 2:25am | IP Logged | |||||
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How exactly do we define "adult" and "child"? In some cultures, adulthood begins at 13 and In others some
years later. I currently have a 14-year-old Romanian girl in my IT class who recently arrived with practically no English. What language learning model will fit her? Plenty of kids are exposed regularly to a heritage language but the end results can be extremely variable, whereas good progress is a given in the language of the peer group. Perhaps the reason kids seem to do so well is the enormous social incentive to fit in and the structured learning environment provided by the education system. Adults arrive in new countries but they don't all have jobs in the local language, they may well bring their spouse from back home and continue to speak their native language in private. They might be able to get by with their own language in their new homeland. There are so many variables. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4521 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 67 of 67 02 November 2014 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
Teenagers are a very special demographic, I don't think either learning model would fit.
It is also believed that native speakers learn most of their language from peers. We don't speak like our parents do, but like our friends. It seems to fit well with the i+1 idea, your 1 year older buddy seems to naturally provide you with the right input to improve. It gets problematic (for immigrants) when their peer group has a very diverse language background (ie. other immigrants), as is often the case in big cities. Rather bad progress there. Edited by daegga on 02 November 2014 at 12:33pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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