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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4535 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes  Studies: German | Message 97 of 225 10 January 2015 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
I haven't done any courses, but everyone generally says that you'll get to high-A2, perhaps B1, with Assimil. People also say (Gemuse I'm looking at you!) that Hugo is a good compliment for grammar (you need only the book) as Assimil is a bit grammar light. I am not sure you really need to be doing any more courses, but then that's a phobia of mine. :) Unlike most courses, I think Assimil does get you some useful vocabulary, but it might be worth thinking about ways of trying to actively supplement this (e.g., Anki, graded readers, starting to watch native shows...). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| carlyd Groupie United States Joined 3991 days ago 94 posts - 138 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 98 of 225 11 January 2015 at 7:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I was reading a thread somewhere on this site about the difficulties of getting TV shows in another country because of blocking. I don't recall where the thread was.
I received this blog link from FluentU specifically about all the ways to receive German tv shows and movies if you're outside of Germany, and thought it might be useful to the team members. http://www.fluentu.com/german/blog/watch-german-tv-online/?u tm_source=FluentU+Language+Learning+Tips+and+Updates&utm_cam paign=b0d5ed67fa-German_Learner_Weekly01_11_2015&utm_medium= email&utm_term=0_ee7f81dbad-b0d5ed67fa-89885093 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Nieng Zhonghan Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Antarctica Joined 3673 days ago 108 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Japanese*, Spanish, Galician Studies: Finnish, Icelandic, Armenian, Mongolian Studies: Old English, Russian, English, German, Korean, Mandarin | Message 99 of 225 12 January 2015 at 12:01am | IP Logged | |||||
The Assimil course goes beyond my expectation, then. That's nice to hear. I will definitely look for native resources soon. Edited by Nieng Zhonghan on 12 January 2015 at 1:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4084 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 100 of 225 12 January 2015 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
If you can do more, it's usually better; but the other stuff should not come at the expense of Assimil+Hugo IMHO. The reason being that once you get to B1, a LOT of nativ material opens up, so if you are in it for the long haul, aim to get to A2/B1 as quickly as possible, and then use readers and native material as supplements. I don't know how useful native shows will be at A1. In addition, there are three editions of Assimil, so you could also try doing two at once. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4535 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 101 of 225 12 January 2015 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
Can you say something about the differences in the three different editions? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Nieng Zhonghan Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Antarctica Joined 3673 days ago 108 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Japanese*, Spanish, Galician Studies: Finnish, Icelandic, Armenian, Mongolian Studies: Old English, Russian, English, German, Korean, Mandarin | Message 102 of 225 12 January 2015 at 2:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@Gemuse
It will take time for me to finish the Assimil course as it has 100 units and I have only accomplished 25% of it. Although it went smoothly, I guess difficult grammar patterns are waiting me in the next 75%. I will try to do another burst this week, but there is a lot to review. Who knows how long it will take to finish the whole course? Aside from Germanpod and Hugo in 3 months, as you said I will work with native materials. At the moment, from my other language learning experiences, I don’t think dealing with native resources is really effective for my learning approach. Perhaps only music (lyrics) can help me a little bit. In addition, I am considering borrowing some German grammar books and buy one of them as a reference. By the way, I am also interested to know the differences in the three Assimil series. I have found only two of them. One is the same book I am working with (with ease) and the other one was German Assimil for English speakers at level B2 published in November last year. Perhaps you are talking about Assimil in the French version, oder? If I am not wrong, the third course of the series is called “Assimil German: Perfectionnement Allemand” which aims you to the level C1, but it is not available in English yet. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4535 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 103 of 225 12 January 2015 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
I find it hard to believe *any* course gets you much beyond B1, as the big stumbling block is always going to be vocabulary, not grammar. I know I am a bit extreme here, but I think you are much better off doing one (or two) basic courses, and getting into native materials as soon as possible, then later start writing and fill in the gaps you have in grammar that become apparent when writing then. I see this a lot in Berlin where expats go to language schools, and am regularly told by participants they are B2 or C1 level, but they have never read a book or could not watch a movie without subtitles. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| WingSuet Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5353 days ago 169 posts - 211 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: Cantonese | Message 104 of 225 12 January 2015 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
I see what you mean and I tend to agree. Many course books focus on vocabulary for only a few situations and when you find yourself in another situation, suddenly you can't say anything. However, I have no experience of using Assimil, so I can't judge its contents, it might be a great resource. But I also know that even though I have read native books from a certain genre and have learned a lot of vocabulary from it, simply reading something from a different genre might cause a lot of trouble, since I'm not used to the kind of vocabulary used in that genre. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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