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| plumbem! Groupie United States Joined 3631 days ago 44 posts - 72 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French | Message 9 of 20 04 January 2015 at 8:18am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Hello! I am also on the French team and will be following your log.
I saw you posted about this in the team thread and thought it was a great coincidence because I had just found a copy of it in the attic and set it aside to take a look at. I am thinking about doing the super challenge too, probably for reading. Anyways,best of luck, look forward to reading your updates. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3854 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto | Message 10 of 20 04 January 2015 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'll be following your log, it seems we have taken similar trajectories with French (I am
a final year uni student, studying French), and we're both interested in German. Good luck for the coming year! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Tiy Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3678 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German | Message 11 of 20 04 January 2015 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Thanks for that Jeffers! I've been looking for audio resources with transcripts but they have been quite hard to find. I'd heard of "7 jours sur la planète" but I will definitely look into it now. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Tiy Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3678 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German | Message 12 of 20 05 January 2015 at 6:39pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Hello plumbem! I definitely recommend the Super Challenge. I know it was a bit ambitious for me to start the Full Challenge so late in the game, but since it would help and not hinder my school studies, I thought it was worth a shot. I am really enjoying "L'Aventure des Langues en Occident." At first, there was a lot of vocabulary that I hadn't encountered before - when I first opened the book I collected 100 or so new words - but my reading skills have definitely improved since starting it. Plus, I just love the subject topic - it's really interesting to find out about the differences between European languages. It's given me so many ideas for languages to study - but I think I should improve the ones I'm already studying first!
I'll be following your log as well! How have you found your degree? I imagine the year abroad would have been extremely helpful. Anyway, I have been looking for some books that help with English to French translation (because we have to do translate a passage from English to French) and I reckoned that you probably know of some good books on the subject. Are you aware of any books which would help me? Edited by Tiy on 18 January 2015 at 7:20pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3854 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto | Message 13 of 20 05 January 2015 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I really enjoyed my degree, but had less luck on my year abroad, partially because of the town I was staying in. It's still early for you to be thinking about it, but the people I have spoken to who chose to work rather than study during their year abroad enjoyed their time much more. However, studying in France has improved my listening comprehension amazingly. Unfortunately, I can't recommend any books that treat translation specifically. The best course of action would be to find out whether you will be translating a literary or journalistic/factual text. Once you know, practice translating that kind of text into French, and also try to do a lot more reading of whichever type you will be translating. There are a few tips that I've picked up, mostly to do with translating from French into English, sadly, but the best thing for translation is reading a wide variety of texts, because you can never predict what will come up. So the Super Challenge will really help you with that :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Tiy Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3678 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German | Message 14 of 20 07 January 2015 at 11:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed your degree and sorry to hear about your year abroad. I know I will be studying during my year abroad because it is a law degree which requires me to study French law at a French university. However, I have been told that the workload will not be as heavy as it will be at my actual university, so I may be able to get some type of part-time job. Don't worry about the English-to-French translation books. I'm aware that they are quite hard to come by, at least in the UK. I'm sure my A Level translation will involve factual rather than literary texts, but I'm not entirely sure about the actual topics. I think the Super Challenge will help, if I can choose the right books/films! Are there any other books that you found useful during your degree? I'm trying to stock up on books now so that I have enough to read for the Super Challenge/ A Level French. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Tiy Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3678 days ago 16 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German | Message 15 of 20 07 January 2015 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Language Log Update (7th January 2015)
Engrenages - C'est magnifique! I've just finished watching the first series of "Engrenages" - a TV series which has been recommended by many of the team members in Team Français. I am totally hooked - it's a bit sanglant (gory) but it's TV gold. I am also deeply in love with Pierre Clement (Gregory Fitoussi). Unfortunately I couldn't find any episodes with French subtitles so I did miss important bits, especially when the characters got heated and began to shout (i.e. exactly when the revelations are revealed!). The series is thoroughly enjoyable though - I've been through 8 episodes in just under 3 days which has boosted my stats in the Super Challenge. La lecture de Moliere I have also been reading/studying Moliere's "Tartuffe" for school. Compared to Camus' "L'Etranger", which I read at the start of the Christmas holidays, this is proving more difficult because of the antiquated language. Consequently my progress has been quite slow but I can definitely see how well crafted the play is. Le collège recommence Speaking of school, the school term starts tomorrow so I may not progress with the reading side of the Super Challenge in the next few weeks. However, I am looking forward to French lessons and seeing if I have actually improved at all this Christmas! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3854 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto | Message 16 of 20 08 January 2015 at 11:42am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't really have many recommendations. I think probably the best purchases I have made for French have been The Collins-Robert French-English dictionary, and it's pocket sized equivalent. A lot of people I know didn't bother to buy it, as it is true that . Other than that, I have bought a few grammar books that I've just barely cracked open: Glanville Price's A Comprehensive French Grammar, which has good explanations and lots of example sentences, but no exercises. Schaum's French Grammar, which was recommended by a teacher, but which I have never opened. From a quick flick-through, it appears to have quite brief, clear explanations, and a good amount of examples and exercises. Finally, I have The Ultimate French Review and Practice, which has clear explanations, lots of example sentences and exercises and little 'Notes culturelles' which provide nice little nuggets of information and some reading practice. Other forum members have found the Grammar progressive series useful, and it was recommended highly to me by a teacher in France. Other than that, I can't stress enough the importance of native materials. Aside from my oral classes, and a brief flirt with linguistics, all of my other classes have focused on French culture and artistic output. As we're studying French formally, the need for coursebooks and the like is pretty much eliminated, and since leaving college I have not needed a single French coursebook. I focus on grammar books, because my grammar is atrocious, but other than that the best thing is getting out and using the language. So, films and books are all very useful, necessary tools, but also try to get in speaking practice wherever possible. I've had to learn the hard way that, no matter how much I study, if I am too shy or too nervous in any situation, speaking is the thing that fails first, and the reason why I get shy or nervous is because I have not spoken enough, and so doubt my own abilities. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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