tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 209 of 292 19 June 2015 at 11:10am | IP Logged |
No, that's L-R. That's useful.
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Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian
| Message 210 of 292 19 June 2015 at 11:44am | IP Logged |
Okay... I have absolutely no idea what shadowing is then! Can anyone enlighten me??
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 211 of 292 19 June 2015 at 12:14pm | IP Logged |
It's a technique where you listen to an audio recording and repeat it out loud or
vocalise it straight after.
I don't like it very much. Serpent does.
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Radioclare Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom timeofftakeoff.com Joined 4581 days ago 689 posts - 1119 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian
| Message 212 of 292 19 June 2015 at 12:32pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for the explanation :)
It sounds a bit like Pimsleur!!
It might be useful but I guess the difficult bit would be finding some suitable audio to do it with.
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basica Senior Member Australia Joined 3534 days ago 157 posts - 269 votes Studies: Serbian
| Message 213 of 292 19 June 2015 at 3:09pm | IP Logged |
Glossika offer Croatian and Serbian ;)
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| Message 214 of 292 19 June 2015 at 3:38pm | IP Logged |
I was going to say "What's Glossika?" but I don't want to sound like a broken record, so will go away and Google it....
Is it something you recommend, basica?
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basica Senior Member Australia Joined 3534 days ago 157 posts - 269 votes Studies: Serbian
| Message 215 of 292 19 June 2015 at 3:58pm | IP Logged |
www.glossika.com
Glossika is my main form of "study" at the moment. Since you're at an intermediate level it might not honestly
do that much for you in terms of learning - but if you're looking at something that gives you the audio plus text
for you to shadow to help with speaking practice then it will probably do the trick.
For someone who is an "advanced" beginner it's helpful as I pick up vocab in context and help me to
internalise certain sentence patterns and pick up on things that I wouldn't notice otherwise. For example, the
first thing I noticed is that the speaker when talking about possession, didn't really favour "tvoj" or "moj" but
rather "mi je" or "ti je" or in plural it would switch to "su ti" and "su mi". After speaking to some Serbs they
agreed that this is definitely the case and you would definitely say "gde su ti deca" instead of "gde su tvoja
deca" which would have been my initial inclination.
If you go to their site you can check out in a bit more detail what they're about if what they do suits you. I've
been doing it near 3 months now and I gotta say that while I like it, I think the next language I use them with
will probably be with a more intense and short approach rather than a relaxed and long one.
Edited by basica on 19 June 2015 at 3:59pm
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osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4734 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 216 of 292 19 June 2015 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
I think you may have a misconception about shadowing- it's not like Pimsleur, where the CD (mp3, whatever) says a phrase and you
repeat it during a pause.
With shadowing, you start saying the phrase just after the CD starts speaking, so you're listening at the same time you're
speaking. Let me see if I can get the text below to line up correctly-
[CD] This is an example phrase that you are meant to shadow. I am a big fan of this technique.
[You] This is an example phrase that you are meant to shadow. I am a big fan of this technique.
If you search youtube for "shadowing arguelles" you'll find several videos that demonstrate and discuss the technique.
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