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Serpent
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 Message 73 of 117
18 March 2015 at 8:49pm | IP Logged 
Wow, I'm finding my own challenge surprisingly hard. Well, mostly because I want to address the four kinds of discrimination. I do have quite many books written by women, in some cases I didn't even realize that from the beginning (like with Harper Lee).

At least I've decided what to read in Italian. Pier Vittorio Tondelli was a gay writer who died of AIDS. I already own the book "Camere separate" and it's time to have a read. He seems to have had a similar but much more intense version of my struggle about my religious views too...
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kanewai
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 Message 74 of 117
18 March 2015 at 10:00pm | IP Logged 
I'm having the same problem in Italian - everyone on my list are straight white males.
Part of this is due to what's available; I still need my kindle dictionary, and there
aren't that many titles available.

For French, though ... just wait! I've been highlighting passages I like in Notre-
Dame-des-Fleurs
(Jean Genet, 1943), and be prepared for a totally different voice
once I get a chance to type them up here. The book is extremely explicit, and it's
been a challenge finding somewhat safe passages to share.

I actually joined a book club recently that is doing the same challenge, though in
English. Our first book is Redefining Realness a memoir by
Janet Mock, an editor at People Magazine who
came out as a trans woman in 2011. She grew up here in Honolulu, and is coming to
speak next month - I need to get finish up the books I'm on so that I can start!

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suzukaze
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 Message 75 of 117
21 March 2015 at 10:32am | IP Logged 
Ccaesar wrote:
Grazie mille Suzukaze! C'è come sai molto importante da conoscere prima dell'acquiso del libro :D

Figurati, non c'è di che :)
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espejismo
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 Message 76 of 117
21 March 2015 at 3:08pm | IP Logged 
Here's another suggestion for the current challenge:
El
empoderamiento de las mujeres indígenas - Aristegui @ CNN México
(a 13-minute video)

Edited by espejismo on 21 March 2015 at 3:09pm

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Anya
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 Message 77 of 117
21 March 2015 at 5:35pm | IP Logged 
I am reading a book written by woman, in French (Katherine Pancol "Les yeux jaunes des crocodiles" ). This book
describe a type of woman who is able to dominate even worst than a man.
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 Message 78 of 117
21 March 2015 at 5:45pm | IP Logged 
Sorry, for being a bit absent in this topic so far, trying up on everyone's logs and the group thread. I've been digging more deeply into classic french cinema (mostly 1930-1968ish) and so I thought I'd throw out several classic french films and filmmakers that apply to this months challenge.


Marcel Carné - I didn't know he was gay until recently as I've been reading more about various French filmmakers. But Les Enfants du paradis(1945) is pretty much considered to be one of the best French films ever made, his earlier films, Le Quai des brumes(1938) and Le Jour se lève(1939) are also two favorites of mine that have a pretty high critical reputation.

La Maternelle (Jean Benoit-Lévy & Marie Epstein, 1933) - I'm not sure how much each director contributed to this film and Marie Epstein only directed 1 film on her own and was always listed second in credits when she co-directed with Jean Benoit-Lévy, but La Maternelle is a great film that portrays a much wider of range of women characters than the typical of french films from this time period. Also, although poverty is a common topic in 1930s french cinema, this is one of the few films to address it more seriously, whereas most films from the period treat it in a more stylized manner akin to German street films of the 1920s. Marie Epstein also wrote screenplays and was assistant director for many films directed by her brother Jean Epstein.

Un Chant d'Amour (Jean Genet, 1950) - a short experimental silent film about the fantasies of several male prisoners and their guard about each other, which contains some explicit depictions of masturbation. Jean Genet also wrote some novels, plays, and poetry though I'm not familiar with any of these works, and had a lot of influence on the German filmmaker Rainer Werner Fassbinder.

Une simple histoire (Marcel Hanoun, 1959) - Marcel Hanoun is a Tunisian experimental filmmaker who worked in France and was heavily influenced by Robert Bresson.   The film follows a single mother as she looks for work around Paris, and has a an interesting style in which the character narrates everything that happens on screen sometimes talking over other characters as they are speaking to her. Apparently shot on a very small budget and the story is a minimalistic as the title implies.

Cléo de 5 à 7 (Agnès Varda, 1962) - One of the masterpieces of the French New Wave, this film follows a pop singer who recently discovered she has cancer through 90 minutes of her life in real time. Despite what one might expect from a film that gives itself such a strict rule to adhere to, this film manages to craft a full sensory experience in its run-time as she rehearses potential new songs, watches a short silent comedy film, and listens to news about the war in Algeria on the radio as she rides in a cab. Agnès Varda was also a bit of a trail blazer for the French new wave in that she made her first feature film, La Pointe Courte, in 1955, several years before the New Wave really got going.


That's about it for things I've watched or re-watched recently, but some other filmmakers who would qualify that I'll probably visit or re-visit soon are the early film pioneer Alice Guy-Blaché, experimental filmmaker, poet, playwrite and novelist Jean Cocteau, and Jacqueline Audry who started out as an assistant director for G. W. Pabst and Max Ophüls and then began directing her own films after WWII.

Edited by YnEoS on 21 March 2015 at 5:52pm

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Serpent
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 Message 79 of 117
22 March 2015 at 6:56pm | IP Logged 
Thank you everyone for the input!
Would you want to extend the challenge to April?
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suzukaze
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 Message 80 of 117
22 March 2015 at 9:55pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Would you want to extend the challenge to April?

I haven't felt very well this month so I wouldn't mind having some extra time for the challenge.


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