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| SamD Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6660 days ago 823 posts - 987 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 9 of 14 07 May 2007 at 9:31am | IP Logged | ||
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After studying Spanish for four years, I can make out much of what I hear and read. However, I have only a few weeks of Portuguese, and I can assure you that I have much less understanding of Portuguese even with the Spanish I've studied.
Reading Portuguese is easier for a native speaker of English who has studied Spanish than understanding spoken Portuguese. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 10 of 14 07 May 2007 at 4:07pm | IP Logged | ||
Unsurprisingly, this is also true for native speakers of English who have studied Italian, which is quite similar to Spanish. I wonder how much French helps? It's still a romance language, but it's a bit farther away. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| SamD Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6660 days ago 823 posts - 987 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 11 of 14 08 May 2007 at 9:59am | IP Logged | ||
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French is my best foreign language, and I think that it helps me some with Portuguese, but not as much as Spanish. I've also studied Italian, and it seems closer to Spanish than Portuguese does.
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| rafaelrbp Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 7014 days ago 181 posts - 201 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English, French, Italian Studies: German | Message 12 of 14 09 May 2007 at 12:58am | IP Logged | ||
This was just an example. I can think of similar examples from Brazilian Portuguese x Portugal: PT (BR): O ônibus e o trem estavam perto da ferrovia. PT (PT): O autocarro e o comboio estavam perto do caminho-de-ferro. And in the other hand I can give you examples of the similarities between Spanish and Portuguese: PT: Ao meio-dia desconectei o telefone para me refugiar na música... Senti deslizar debaixo de minha mesa algo que não me pareceu um corpo vivo, e sim uma presença sobrenatural que me roçou os pés, e saltei com um grito. ES: Al mediodía desconecté el teléfono para refugiarme en la música... Sentí deslizarse debajo de mi mesa algo que no me pareció un cuerpo vivo sino una presencia sobrenatural que me rozó los pies, y salté con un grito. (From Gabriel García Marquez, "Memoria de mis putas tristes") The point I'm trying to make is that you should not take in account only the total vocabulary (and similarities) to decide if they are really distinct or not. The interchangeability between two languages depends also in their pronunciation, grammar structure, and... (why not)... the culture associated to it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7001 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin | Message 13 of 14 16 May 2007 at 3:15pm | IP Logged | ||
I think learning many romance languages helps. My mlother tongue is French, and I learnt English and German first. Much later I started learning Portuguese (brazilian, because I cold get a hold of Pimsleur BP) , then Spanish. I then realised I could understand Italian a little bit whereas I could'nt before. Of course, I do happen to mix'em all at times, but after one day in the country i get it right. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| CaitO'Ceallaigh Triglot Senior Member United States katiekelly.wordpress Joined 6858 days ago 795 posts - 829 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Russian Studies: Czech, German | Message 14 of 14 01 June 2007 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you want to explore this more, you might enjoy this Portuguese learning resource:
http://tltc.la.utexas.edu/brazilpod/tafalado/index.php The connection here is that each ten minute podcast focuses on a dialogue that also includes a Spanish translation. You can also see the differences in the included .pdfs. I've only just started the pronunciation lessons, while the creators have moved onto exploring the grammatical differences. Edited by CaitO'Ceallaigh on 01 June 2007 at 6:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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