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| Aquila Triglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5483 days ago 104 posts - 128 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, German Studies: French | Message 161 of 351 22 December 2009 at 2:23pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
The arguments for using Esperanto are strong in my opinion, and I believe that there’s still a future for Esperanto. I also think the popularity of Esperanto is still increasing. Because of the internet and the wish to communicate with people from all over the world. It will probably not be the biggest language of world – the language with the highest number of speakers, but it could, and it already can, be very useful. Edited by Aquila on 22 December 2009 at 2:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6441 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 162 of 351 22 December 2009 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Esperanto isn't all that engineered, despite having being intentionally created. It has some nice ideas and regularities, but there are plenty of blurry details in the end, just as in any other spoken human language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| koffiegast Diglot Newbie Netherlands Joined 5462 days ago 29 posts - 33 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 163 of 351 23 December 2009 at 1:53am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
If you wish to see a language that allows you to understand semantics easily (e.g. no idioms or comparable constructions) Esperanto is probably the same as every language. The easiest parts is most likely that it is more systematic and allows easy word constructions and is really predictive. Something like a computer language won't really work for human language, as the human language involves many different constructions that would involve several programs using computer language in order to be computed. Basically. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6441 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 164 of 351 23 December 2009 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I'd say Esperanto is mildly easier, but on the whole, agree.
Fully agree.
That makes no sense whatsoever. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| koffiegast Diglot Newbie Netherlands Joined 5462 days ago 29 posts - 33 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 165 of 351 24 December 2009 at 3:44am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
It's hard to explain ;) You could say perhaps that the language we use to communicate is incomplete in order to fully convey messages, because we use other kinds of information in order to fully understand communicated messages. This basically differs from programming languages where every step has to be stated (even with libraries and such), you could say that programming languages used as human languages simply seems impractical. Simply because human languages are more evolved to what it is now that is convenient for humans, programming languages involves a lot of stating things over and over again and everything has to be very precise, I don't see myself talking in a programming language where I first have to state several objects, their properties, etc. Sure language can be made more logical (see www.ithkuil.net a 'an priori' engineered loglang), but one should ask himself how far can you go when it comes to making semantics logical without using too many complex word structures (e.g. that it is convenient). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Snesgamer Groupie Afghanistan Joined 6613 days ago 81 posts - 90 votes Studies: English*, German, Spanish, Norwegian, Scottish Gaelic | Message 166 of 351 24 December 2009 at 5:44am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Personally, my opinion is that any time and effort spent learning Esperanto could probably be spent more productively studying a dead language (such as Latin) that actually has a rich body of literature already behind it. With so many dead and dying languages around, it seems a shame to me that time is thrown away by studying a new-fangled one like Esperanto.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6441 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 167 of 351 24 December 2009 at 3:39pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Given that you're studying Spanish and French, I don't see why you object to people studying "new-fangled" living languages. I've productively studied Latin and Esperanto; there's no comparison. By the time you know basic Latin grammar, you can be thoroughly intermediate in Esperanto. While you're still struggling with basic sentences in authentic Latin texts, you can be fluent in Esperanto and read it comfortably, occasionally referring to a dictionary. Both Esperanto and Latin have rich bodies of literature. Given the choice to only be able to read one, fluently, with no work, I might actually choose Esperanto - its body of literature is more interesting to me, heretical as it is to say this. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5523 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 168 of 351 24 December 2009 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
I personally think Greek is more interesting than Latin, but this statement is quite astonishing. To compare Esperanto texts to Latin literature. You can't be serious. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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