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Al-Malik
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United Kingdom
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Speaks: English*, German*, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Dutch, French, Arabic (classical)
Studies: Mandarin, Persian

 
 Message 9 of 11
24 August 2005 at 3:03pm | IP Logged 
I had a look on the net and there seem to be quite a few web pages dedicated to the learning of ASL. Here I found some sentences that were literally translated into English. To me these questions certainly look as if they had their own grammar, quite different from English grammar:

SUPPOSE WALK 4-HOUR, FUTURE-(will) TIRED YOU?
Suppose you walk for four hours, would you be tired?

PEOPLE DEAF CITY-(community) PROUD THEMSELVES DEAF-("cheek puffed out")?
Are members of the Deaf community proud to be Deaf?

EMBARRASS EASY YOU?
Do you embarrass easily?

Additionally, there seem to be some elements of grammar that do not appear in spoken languages, like positioning people in space etc.

Maybe someone familiar with ASL could post their opinion here?
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K.C.
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Studies: Spanish

 
 Message 10 of 11
24 August 2005 at 8:39pm | IP Logged 
I'm pretty sure that ASL has it's own grammar. I also don't think it's at all fair to call it a "contrived" language and compare it to Esperanto and Pig Latin. They arose for vastly different reasons. Sign Language arose, like spoken languages such as Spanish or German, in order for people to communicate and gave people not an additional language but for many a first language. Esperanto and Pig Latin on the other hand were never intended to be anyone's first language and were not created out of necessity. People who are deaf have to learn sign to be able to communicate at all the same way that people learn regular spoken languages to be able to communicate. It's not an ad on the way Esperanto and such is.
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lengua
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Studies: French, Italian, Spanish, German

 
 Message 11 of 11
15 October 2006 at 2:38pm | IP Logged 
ASL is as much of a language as Spanish or French. It has its own grammar, speakers, dialects, and so forth. It is also a natural (as opposed to an artificial) language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language


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