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| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6384 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes  Speaks: Latin* | Message 65 of 72 12 September 2007 at 3:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
What's wrong with the good old Radio 1 and Radio 2 from http://portal.omroep.nl/ ?! They don't include English... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 66 of 72 12 September 2007 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't think I'd stumbled across those particular two before (probably because I was focusing on mp3 streams; they work with my preferred software, while for real/windows media/etc, I need to fall back on alternative software). I'm trying them out now. Thank you. [Edit: It took all of about 5 minutes for an English song to start playing on Radio 2. I'm back to listening to Radio 1.] [Edit 2: Radio 1, unsurprisingly enough, also played English music.] Edited by Volte on 12 September 2007 at 4:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6384 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 67 of 72 12 September 2007 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, these are the State Channels, similar to BBC, etc., something that the Dutch are paying kijk-en-luistergeld for (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kijk-_en_luistergeld). And yes, they will all play English songs... That's how the country works. :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 68 of 72 12 September 2007 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes, or at least that matches my observations so far, but the percentage of such songs varies -drastically- between stations; some play a few English songs a day, while others seem to only play English music, and have a minimum of plain speech in Dutch. I'm trying to find those which minimize English. I've listened to quite a lot of Dutch radio stations, but only a handful haven't had tons of English music. I'd prefer absolutely none, but merely primarily Dutch music is the best I've been able to find so far. I'm currently trying 100% NL Radio; it seems rather pop-oriented, but the name, at least, inspires some confidence, and both songs I've heard on it so far are in Dutch. [edit: it, too, includes English songs.] [Edit 2: I'll start looking for talk-only stations, with no music]. What -are- the Dutch getting for their 'look and listen money'? Edited by Volte on 12 September 2007 at 4:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6384 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 69 of 72 12 September 2007 at 4:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, nothing any longer as I believe it was abolished a few years ago. But the idea was to allow 'public' broadcasting corporations to produce high quality non-commercial programmes, much like the BBC and the infamous British TV licensing (which hasn't been abolished yet)... The whole history of the Dutch 'omroepen' reads like a detective story, though. There was even a 'pirate' radio station Veronica which was broadcasting from a rig in the North Sea (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Veronica_%28zeezender%29 ). And the rest of the 'publieke omroepen' has been divided into religiously tinted 'silos'... Don't get me started... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 70 of 72 12 September 2007 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
There've been quite a lot of pirate radio stations. I know a co-founder of one (not Veronica). The story of the 'omroepen' sounds like it might make good Dutch reading practice for me; thanks for the heads up about it. Why shouldn't I get you started? It's starting to sound like a fascinating topic.... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6384 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 71 of 72 12 September 2007 at 5:38pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Because I'm capable of producing lengthy detailed descriptions on subjects of limited interest to the vast majority of the people on the forum. :-)) This might help you understand some of the recent Dutch history: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verzuiling (The English version of this page is, surprisingly, more detailed...) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 72 of 72 12 September 2007 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, that doesn't bother me, and my language learning log is far enough out of the way that it shouldn't bother the vast majority of the forum, or so I'd think/hope/assume.
Ah, thank you. I'd read a little bit on the topic before, but I had had no idea that it had such a huge impact or historical importance. Edited by Volte on 12 September 2007 at 5:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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