mezron Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6316 days ago 24 posts - 35 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: French
| Message 1 of 19 25 June 2007 at 2:22pm | IP Logged |
I'm trying to decide what Russian keyboard layout to use. So far I have not learned any one particular layout.
I have the standard layout that comes with Windows XP. The 'a' key corresponds with the Russian 'ф'. I've heard there is a phonetic version available which would be easier initially to learn. However, if I stick with the standard XP layout, then if I am ever using a different computer, it would be better to have learned the standard XP layout.
If the standard XP layout corresponds to the typical Russian keyboard, then if I am ever in Russia (possible, but not probable), then I would be familiar with the key layout.
Any recommendations or personal experience would be appreciated.
Jim
Edited by mezron on 25 June 2007 at 2:23pm
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Mikluho-Maklai Tetraglot Groupie United States Joined 6539 days ago 46 posts - 47 votes Speaks: Ukrainian, Russian*, English, Italian Studies: Japanese, French, Spanish, German
| Message 2 of 19 25 June 2007 at 2:30pm | IP Logged |
Have you tried a transliterator ?
for example like this one:
http://translit.ru/
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victor Tetraglot Moderator United States Joined 7261 days ago 1098 posts - 1056 votes 6 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, FrenchC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 3 of 19 25 June 2007 at 2:33pm | IP Logged |
I suggest printing the Russian layout from this web site:
Windows Keyboard Layouts
Post it by your keyboard and just learn the arrangement. It takes very little time to master.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6852 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 19 25 June 2007 at 3:16pm | IP Logged |
I decided to learn the Russian layout, and got it after a few hours of copying the first chapters in our textbook. To my help I had a keyboard layout (open in another window), and as the words didn't have that many different letters in the beginning I learned the keys quite effortlessly.
I've heard stories about pasting stickers with Russian letters onto your keyboard, getting a special keyboard with both sets printed (A/Ф, S/Ы and so on) but I chose the cheaper way and it worked.
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mezron Diglot Newbie United States Joined 6316 days ago 24 posts - 35 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: French
| Message 5 of 19 25 June 2007 at 4:32pm | IP Logged |
The transliterator is quite neat. But I've printed out the default Russian layout and taped it to my computer screen. I'll just deal with learning the Cyrillic layout.
Thanks for the links and replies.
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An'ka Banan'ka Diglot Groupie United States Joined 6318 days ago 46 posts - 48 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Swedish, Russian
| Message 6 of 19 26 June 2007 at 6:18am | IP Logged |
Here's what I did:
I was on zaycev.net (a Russian network for downloading free music) and I wanted all the mp3 files to be in cyrillic of course. So, instead of purchasing anything, I just drew out a diagram of the Russian keyboard. I changed every artist/musician and song into cyrillic using my "diagram."At first it was a really slow, irritating process, but after awhile the letters just began to stick in my brain ("J" = О, B= И, etc.). Now, because of doing that repeatedly, I can type better from memorization than my Russian boyfriend can! (Everytime he uses my computer--with English keys only--- he writes in transliteration instead of Cyrillic because he is so used to having the keys there to look at). I don't know if this helps, but it really worked for me and it has helped me immensely because I can now use any interface (English or Russian/English keyboard) without relying on the keys to be lettered. Does this make any sense at all???
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Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7131 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin
| Message 7 of 19 26 June 2007 at 1:05pm | IP Logged |
I wish I learned the real Russian layout, but instead I decided to use a phonetic layout (a=а s=с, d=д, f=ф etc.). If you would like to use a phonetic layout, I installed the Cyrillic keyboard layout available from Fontboard.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6852 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 19 26 June 2007 at 2:07pm | IP Logged |
Just as An'ka Banan'ka says, it is a slow process in the beginning but the most common letters tend to stick very soon. I can't say that I type as quickly in Russian as in English/Swedish/whatever, but I don't have to think so much before I type.
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