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furyou_gaijin
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 Message 49 of 103
28 July 2007 at 5:03am | IP Logged 
LilleOSC wrote:
You still have the Catholic Church that uses it. [/
QUOTE]

And some Orthodox Churches use Church Slavonic. Does that make it a
living language, too?


[QUOTE=LilleOSC] furyou_gaijin, what accent do you have when you
speak Latin? Was that really your first language?


My first language was Visual Basic. Yet I found no option for it. :-(

As for speaking Latin, I find it a pointless activity - as set out in my
posts above... Hence no one has had a chance to establish my accent so
far...
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furyou_gaijin
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 Message 50 of 103
28 July 2007 at 5:07am | IP Logged 
tmesis wrote:

Please don't get me wrong. I'm all in favor of torturing children and small
animals, but it loses its beauty and meaning when done toward a purpose
rather than for its own sake.

One might even propose that the deliberate acquisition of languages is an
artificial activity, no?


Two excellent points! :-))) You've made my day. :-)))
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JasonChoi
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 Message 51 of 103
29 July 2007 at 11:04am | IP Logged 
furyou_gaijin wrote:
And some Orthodox Churches use Church Slavonic. Does that make it a living language, too?


My parish priest in the States once told me about a time when he spoke Latin during his seminary years. Also, I'm told that there are some religious communities that continue to use Latin in everyday life, which is interesting. He, by the way, is a polyglot. He speaks 10 languages (naturally one of them is Latin). He also knows enough Church Slavonic (he's a Byzantine Catholic priest).

Quote:
As for speaking Latin, I find it a pointless activity


My purpose for learning to speak it is to gauge how much of a language I can learn to speak on my own. Since there aren't any native speakers of it, this seemed appropriate for me. Plus, it'll give me insights into modern Romance languages.

Lastly, I was fascinated to hear about priests who currently go overseas and communicate with other clergymen in Latin (particularly bishops who still speak in Latin).

While I doubt that will ever happen to me, I think it could prove to be useful for the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, if they ever decided to have synods with bishops from various countries. Using one language would be much easier than translating a whole bunch of them (which is exactly what happened in 2005).

Edited by JasonChoi on 29 July 2007 at 11:20am

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JasonChoi
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 Message 52 of 103
29 July 2007 at 11:25am | IP Logged 
Due to time, and personal/religious reasons, I've decided to limit my learning. I simply do not have enough time to study this language in depth right now because my life is not balanced, so I have to refocus all my priorities first.

Thus, for now, I will learn primiarily through religious content (Vulgate, Latin prayers, Tridentine Mass, etc). Everything else will be on hold.
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LilleOSC
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 Message 53 of 103
01 August 2007 at 10:28am | IP Logged 
furyou_gaijin wrote:

As for speaking Latin, I find it a pointless activity - as set out in my
posts above... Hence no one has had a chance to establish my accent so
far...

Interesting post from Ardaschir defending Latin:
Ardaschir wrote:

3. Latin. Latin is literally the mother of them all, the core, the hub, the thread that ties them together. The rest are not only her daughters, they are literally living dialects of Latin, and it is generally recogized philological principle that it is far easier to go from a standard language to a dialect than it is to go in reverse. The suggestion that it might be possible to learn all the Romance languages without knowing Latin just because she is "dead" will surely cause all the great 19th century philologists to turn over in their graves, for they would most certainly all assert to a man that being well versed in Latin is an invaluable cornerstone in the construction of polyglottery.



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furyou_gaijin
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 Message 54 of 103
04 August 2007 at 2:49pm | IP Logged 
LilleOSC wrote:
furyou_gaijin wrote:

As for speaking Latin, I find it a pointless activity - as set out in my
posts above... Hence no one has had a chance to establish my accent so
far...

Interesting post from Ardaschir defending Latin:
Ardaschir wrote:

3. Latin. Latin is literally the mother of them all, the core, the hub, the
thread that ties them together. The rest are not only her daughters, they
are literally living dialects of Latin, and it is generally recogized
philological principle that it is far easier to go from a standard language
to a dialect than it is to go in reverse. The suggestion that it might be
possible to learn all the Romance languages without knowing Latin just
because she is "dead" will surely cause all the great 19th century
philologists to turn over in their graves, for they would most certainly all
assert to a man that being well versed in Latin is an invaluable
cornerstone in the construction of polyglottery.




And what purpose is served by opposing these two completely unrelated
quotes, pray tell?!
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LilleOSC
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 Message 55 of 103
05 August 2007 at 10:51pm | IP Logged 
furyou_gaijin wrote:

And what purpose is served by opposing these two completely unrelated
quotes, pray tell?!

Why are you so angered by that quote from Ardaschir? You said that speaking Latin is a pointless activity. I quoted a post from Ardaschir that defends Latin in today's world. I respect your views about Latin. I was just quoting how one person feels about Latin's importance.
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furyou_gaijin
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 Message 56 of 103
07 August 2007 at 5:49pm | IP Logged 
[QUOTE=LilleOSC] Why are you so angered by that quote from Ardaschir?
You said that speaking Latin is a pointless activity. I quoted a post from
Ardaschir that defends Latin in today's world. I respect your views about
Latin. I was just quoting how one person feels about Latin's importance. [/
QUOTE]

Hm... My original question is still not answered. Never mind, though.


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