Aena Newbie United States geocities.com/mo Joined 7050 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Studies: Mandarin, English*
| Message 1 of 35 27 July 2007 at 8:35am | IP Logged |
I'm looking to learn and retain languages effectively, but don't know where to start.
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siomotteikiru Senior Member Zaire Joined 6362 days ago 102 posts - 242 votes
| Message 2 of 35 27 July 2007 at 1:44pm | IP Logged |
If I were you, I'd start at the beginning.
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tpiz Diglot Groupie United States cvillepayne.blogspot Joined 6365 days ago 77 posts - 79 votes Studies: Portuguese, English*, French Studies: Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 3 of 35 27 July 2007 at 3:07pm | IP Logged |
Sorry for the snotty response above me, please don't let her affect your opinion of the board, but to answer your question, there are PLENTY of methods that someone may think is the most efficient or best way to learn a language. If you have had any experience with learning a language, use your experience with it and try to judge for yourself what you think the best method is: Pimsleur, Assimil, the Listening-Reading method(may be the cheapest), taking it at a school(probably not the best, but most sure way), etc. Let me know if you need help determining, or you can ask the huge group of people here who have much more experience than I do probably
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Aritaurus Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6575 days ago 197 posts - 204 votes Speaks: Cantonese, English*, Japanese, Mandarin Studies: Spanish
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I think it really depends on the person. Many people on this board say audio/visual tools are the best. Personally, I can retain many words from books as opposed to audio/visual programs like the rosetta stone and Pimsleur.
I wouldn't worry too much about retaining vocabulary. I'm learning Japanese by working on several textbooks - I have about nine textbooks ranging from absolute beginner to intermediate/advanced. When I'm done with one book, the next book I work on will usually refresh me on the vocabulary that was not retained. When I know that I've seen a word from a previous book, I'll immediately retain it permanently in my memory.
It's a long process but I honestly think this works.
Edited by Aritaurus on 27 July 2007 at 3:34pm
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
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Try taking the learning style quiz :)
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
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Good idea! And based on the results of how intuitive/global learners "can help themselves", I can see why FSI just does not float my boat. If someone is global/intuitive, Assimil or the Learning-Reading system seem more appropriate. I'm sure getting more out of those methods and study is no longer drudgery.
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Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7029 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian
| Message 7 of 35 27 July 2007 at 10:19pm | IP Logged |
I looked at the learning style quiz. To most questions there I would answer "both". I doubt the validity of such a test.You will learn best doing what you like.
My answer to Aena would be." Do what you like to do. Plan to enjoy the language." For most people that means what Krashen called massive comprehensible input. Listen and read a lot. You can do it however you like. You can call it what you want. You need exposure to the language. And do not fret the grammar. Follow the Listening-Reading thread here or look at the Linguist Method that I posted. Then pick and choose what you like.
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Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7104 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 8 of 35 28 July 2007 at 1:59am | IP Logged |
Zhuangzi wrote:
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Don't doubt the validity of such tests because what you like doing will be tend to be what suits your learning style and more importantly what you don't like doing won't (the latter point saving you a fortune in time and money).
Andy
P.S. What I should have also said is that when I took that particular test I was also a "both" on lots of questions.
Edited by Andy E on 28 July 2007 at 2:02am
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