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| NYC_Trini_Span Diglot Groupie United States Joined 7226 days ago 60 posts - 66 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 186 of 193 19 January 2011 at 10:52pm | IP Logged |
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Im back checking in.
RIP Don, with your strong attitude I would have loved to debate with you more about learning. Seriously. I think Heartburn will carry the legacy of the fire lol I am back here, because I finally met Patrick 3 weeks ago when he was on vacation in NY. He saw my youtube vids and contacted me. Well Im sure glad you never asked where we were both from because after talking we discovered we grew up in the same town but like 20 yrs apart. We even know some of the same families and last names. Small world! Anyhow he mentioned that him and Don had actually spoken and smoothed things over and we could actually chuckle about this loooooooooong thread. I would love to hear from form LSLC or Platiquemos users and get an update in their skill. I stayed in the DR on and off, for 23 months during a 3 yr span (Nov 2005-May 2008) and by early 2008 could say so much , fast. I mastered Usted and began to use it with skill and expertise versus when to use Tú. I began to teach basic Spanish as well. I would talk to myself in Spanish, wake up thinking in it, rattle off for 10 minutes and forget if the conversation was in Spanish or English, or light *german or Haitian creole etc. This is the benefit of living abroad, the daily need to communicate. In NYC its harder Thats because in NYC every foreigner wants to be a NEW YORKER/American and would rather practice their English. It like "Buenos días" and you get "Morning" back to you. You then say "¿Cómo te va/le va todo? Cuéntame/Cuénteme de los hijos tuyos/suyos..etc" the response "everyone is fine" lol. I moved back to NYC that summer of 2008. I went to the DR parade in Aug, I was able to convince no less than 5 families that I was born in the DR, and just "looked" american or jamaican (even though there ARE dark-skinned dominicans, and light-skinned Spanish looking Haitians for that matter). This is becuase at the time, my accent was near spot on, and my vocabulary was even more in-tune with the island than Domincans living in NY. I had all the new slang even, knew songs that werent yet out in America. It WAS great. Then: I stopped speaking daily, due to a few factors. One was looking Jamaican and many people assuming I am that, until I keep speaking. Then its, you speak Dominican, but you look Jamaican! So when I look at you I have to speak English man! I was down to 2 or 3 five minute conversations a week. My girlfriend was learning from me and I found my time was spent covering the basics for her and not improving myself. She also used to make fun of my fast Spanish, she would roll her tongue for 10 secs lol and it actually descouraged me from speeding, but then the result was i began to stutter, as if it were easier to think of a whole sentence more quickly than slowly. I decided at the time to become accountable, instead of just “saying” I speak. So after a year back in NYC, with completely rusty Spanish, I made a video. Here is it to comment on or judge, to inspire or what have you. I myself am tired of people not putting money where their mouth is in terms of skill. So here you go panas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkM_fmMMhp0 A video of pics with audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Bl7DNBekc&feature=related Let me know what you think,, the good, the bad, the rusty. I also am an Emcee, meaning I make Hip-Hop music, since I was 7, and believe my skill in word retention comes from that, and also my ability to freestlye or “make-up” lyrics that rhyme and make sense on the go. I believe my performances aided in my boldness to speak. Im not so shy in that way. If you look for my other link “Trifle MC at Amarachi” you can see an acapella performance I did. That was 2009 and since then I began the FSI programmatic with my GF to retrain my accent (estaba yo comiendo las s y las d como “he habla’o”) and will be posting more vids this year 2011. Ciao NYC Edited by NYC_Trini_Span on 20 January 2011 at 7:25pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5786 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 187 of 193 20 January 2011 at 1:08am | IP Logged |
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I looked at your youtube video.I had never heard the Dominican accent before, sounds quite similar to Cuban to me, very easy on the ear. I just found this thread due to the recent post and read it all the way through. What happened in the end between Don Casteel and Crazy Patrick? I'm sure I read somewhere on this forum that they met or something, and sorted everything out. But can't find out more because not being a "pro" member my search results for posts by "Platiquemos" end about 6 years ago! I bought Platiquemos in Jan or Feb 2008 for a considerable sum of money, and thought it well worth it. I often wondered if the voice of Consul Harris was that of Mr Casteel! Edited by Random review on 20 January 2011 at 1:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| NYC_Trini_Span Diglot Groupie United States Joined 7226 days ago 60 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 188 of 193 20 January 2011 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
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What lesson is Consul Harris in? I have the FSI Basic so I know i don't have his voice. I always wanted to
hear Don. I mean ALWAYS because I hear government workers must train hard, and I would love to hear the fruits of that labor. If you could provide even a 30 second sample i would be greatful. I didn't ask too much about Don to Patrick, but he mentioned it all being ironed out before Don passed away. I think beside their differences, they both shared a love of language and a desire to help others get there. I didn't speak in Spanish to Patrick that much but what we did exchange I can say his accent is very good, very colombian. Not at all like my dominicanismo lol He did thank me for the support all these years and the mention in the youtube. I think I bought the program in its first year. I appreciated that. Oiga me di cuenta de que ya habla español pero quisiera saber si lo aprendió o si ya nació hispanohablante. Hablaba el alemán much o antes sin saber escribir tanto, por tener una novia de austria cuando vivia en la república dominicana. Hay una población grande de los alemanes allí. Después de como 5 meses juntos cuando sus clientes entraban en su taller (ella cosía) y le hablaban en alemán, yo podía decirle todo lo que decían. Y les podía saludar en su idioma, presentarme y mucho. Hoy en dia solo digo "Gutten tag, ish ben have hunger" "Ish schpreche ein bischen deutch abba ich veis est nicht." Meuchsten zie itvas essen, itvas drinken? Vine drinken Pues no peudo deletrearlo bien pero lo digo mejor lol, si viviera allí todavía aún lo sabría Mucho gusto, por cierto/a propósito Edited by NYC_Trini_Span on 21 January 2011 at 9:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| NYC_Trini_Span Diglot Groupie United States Joined 7226 days ago 60 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 189 of 193 20 January 2011 at 8:04pm | IP Logged |
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Tambien, aunque el accento dominicano es distinto del cubano y del puertoriqueño, me permite entenderlos
fácilmente. Pero si un cubano habla corriendo, me confunde de una vez ¿Qué creyó de mi grabación, o sea, mi acento y fluidez o no fluidez? ¿En qué debo enfocarme? Wow estaba leyendo los comentarios mios y aquel entonces puse/escribí "por hablando" para decir "por hablar". Ya puedo reconocer mis mejoramientos y ¡gracias a Dios que seguí ensayando! Edited by NYC_Trini_Span on 21 January 2011 at 8:55pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Random review Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5786 days ago 781 posts - 1310 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin, Yiddish, German | Message 190 of 193 20 January 2011 at 11:51pm | IP Logged |
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Well first things first, you shouldn't ask ME what you should focus on, that would be a bit silly because your Spanish is better than mine. Your accent seemed very impressive to me...VERY impressive! Secondly, if you really want, I'll try to put a sample of "Consul Harris" on youtube at the weekend (and PM you the link), but you should know that your accent is better than his. Mr Casteel's accent is perfectly understandable, but clearly not native, unlike yours (let me be clear, I mean that even I could easily tell that his accent was non-native; whereas while I'm sure a Domnican could tell you're not really Dominican *I* couldn't). I found this inclusion quite useful. I should add in Mr Casteel's defence that some of the most impressive non-native speakers of English I have met did not have great accents, but of course easily understandable ones.
OK, my Spanish? well it's not that great, but I can make myself understood, I lived almost a year in Spain. I estimate(d) myself at B2 (higher for reading- I do intend to sit the test this year) and for some reason the system here has translated that as my being a "Spanish Speaker" (shrugs). Your comment made me chuckle, though, because I didn't know you could be BORN speaking Spanish ha ha. Sorry I do not understand the following (or rather I understand it as, "after around 5 months when [on one occasion] her customers came in, and they spoke to her in German..." but that makes no sense to me in context):- "Después de como 5 meses cuando sus clientes entraron, y le hablaron en alemán...". Did you mean, "después de como 5 meses, cuando sus clientes entraban, y les hablaban (a los alemanes) en español..."? If not then the error will be mine, no doubt. My best attempt to spell your German would be:- Guten Tag! Ich habe Hunger. Ich spreche ein bißchen Deutsch. Aber ich weiß es nicht.. But I may not be correct!!!!!! Interesting message. Edited by Random review on 21 January 2011 at 12:01am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| NYC_Trini_Span Diglot Groupie United States Joined 7226 days ago 60 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 191 of 193 21 January 2011 at 9:22pm | IP Logged |
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Gracias por la corrección. Me la corregí por arriba. Leála de nuevo por favor
That is the perfect transcription of the German I was trying to say! I'm impressed at that! It was just an example of things I can still say with a decent or at least understandable accent. It's in random order lolol As for being born speaking yeah that is quite funny lol I meant a Spanish speaking country * nació en un país hispanohablante* Oh the b2 did it - I definitely did think you were a native speaker because of that. Thanks for the words about my accent? You are right, Dominicans from la isla can tell My American accent. I'm not sure how slight or grande it is to them but I can definitely fool a dominicanyork (born in ny) for a couple minutes. De vez en cuando pienso en visitar España. ¿Qué le parecía el país cuando vivía allá, y cuáles son las ciudades mas cheveres allí? En cuanto a Don y su acento yo también creo que hay muchas personas que hablan con su acento nativo pero pueden defenderse perfecto en el otro idioma. De hecho tenía muchos profesores bastantes inteligentes que platicaban con acento duro y fuerte, pero sabían (o sea, saben) hablar el ingles y su gramática. Edited by NYC_Trini_Span on 21 January 2011 at 9:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| NYC_Trini_Span Diglot Groupie United States Joined 7226 days ago 60 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 192 of 193 21 January 2011 at 9:24pm | IP Logged |
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Espero que otra gente suba sus vídeos
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