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| Platiquemos Hexaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Panama platiquemos-letstalk Joined 7165 days ago 126 posts - 141 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish | Message 41 of 193 22 April 2005 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the information. Guess I don't think globally.
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| Malcolm Triglot Retired Moderator Senior Member Korea, South Joined 7318 days ago 500 posts - 515 votes 5 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Latin | Message 42 of 193 22 April 2005 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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Don Casteel: I also really like Platiquemos and I'd take it over "Crazy" any day. The Platiquemos site looks much more professional than the "Crazy" site, and you seem much more trustworthy than the "Crazy" team that posts fake reviews on Amazon.com and possibly message boards. I only wish there was a "Hanashimashoo" for Japanese or a "women liaotian ba" for Chinese.
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| heartburn Senior Member United States Joined 7210 days ago 355 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 43 of 193 22 April 2005 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Luke once said that he thinks that Platiquemos is a "labor of love." I believe that.
I think of LSLC as being more like a limburger cheese. No matter how good it might be, there's still that smell. Edited by heartburn on 23 April 2005 at 12:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Platiquemos Hexaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Panama platiquemos-letstalk Joined 7165 days ago 126 posts - 141 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish | Message 44 of 193 23 April 2005 at 11:53am | IP Logged | ||
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This morning, I received the following registered letter from New York (where else?) lawyers:
WE ARE HEREBY DEMAND that you immediately remove any and all statements from your website concerning Learning Spanish Like Crazy and /or Patrick Jackson, including, but not limited to, direct and indirect references to Learning Spanish Like Krazy and Mr Jackson. As a result of the defamatory and slanderous statements, our client has suffered substantial monetary damages and irreparable injury to its reputation. Our client wishes to resolve this matter in an amicable manner without the expense of litigation. Howeber, if you refuse to comply with all of our requests between three days of the date of this letter, we will have no other option but to commence a law suit against you and your company for slander, defamation of character and libel. Holden E Thornhill Kreisberg Maitland & Thornhill, LLP14 Penn Plaza at 225 West 34th Street New York, New York 10122 212-629-4970 Since I don't want to waste my time on this, I've removed the review of "Crazy" from the website. I don't think I made any defamatory or slanderous statements (on his website Jackson refers to material he says he learned from Platiquemos among other programs as "useless junk") I'm just going to let the matter drop. However, if anybody should e-mail me privately and ask for my opinions about Learning Spanish Like Crazy, I don't think even New York lawyers could stop me from responding. For the moderator: I don't know if you'd think it wise to remove my comments from this forum. Do what you think is best. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Platiquemos Hexaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Panama platiquemos-letstalk Joined 7165 days ago 126 posts - 141 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish | Message 45 of 193 23 April 2005 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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A P.S. LCLC ("Crazy") now has a one page website, on which the statement is made:
"You learn spoken Spanish not the useless junk taught in classrooms and other Spanish courses" Obviously, that must include Platiquemos, and if that's not derogatory I don't know what would be! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 46 of 193 23 April 2005 at 12:15pm | IP Logged | ||
Makes one wonder about the legality of taking a book in the public domain, like Programmatic Spanish, and adding a new title page with copyright notice on the scanned document. Or how about taking audio from a public domain source and adding "TITLE all rights reserved" to the beginning, and a chime sound to the end. Edited by luke on 23 April 2005 at 12:38pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Platiquemos Hexaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Panama platiquemos-letstalk Joined 7165 days ago 126 posts - 141 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish | Message 47 of 193 23 April 2005 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I still think Crazy is most unethical in its selling methods, obviously orchestrated reviews on Amazon.com, etc. Lest anybody think I'm particularly cowardly from backing off from these lawyers, I'm going to sign off in a way I haven't for years.
Donald D. Casteel CPT (Inf) U.S. Army 1963-69 Purple Heart (2) Bronze Star Edited by Malcolm on 23 April 2005 at 4:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| heartburn Senior Member United States Joined 7210 days ago 355 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 48 of 193 23 April 2005 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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I may have this wrong, but I think I remember reading somewhere that Patrick Jackson is a lawyer in New York State.
I really don't think it would be necessary to remove Mr. Casteel's remarks. Any comments by Mr. Jackson would be just as welcome here. Edited by heartburn on 23 April 2005 at 1:35pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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