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| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6498 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 9 of 60 08 October 2007 at 5:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm a SuperMemo user, but I generally recommend Mnemosyne over it. SuperMemo has many problems, including one of the most horrible user interfaces I've ever seen and the occasional bug. I frankly don't see how they could even charge money for software of that quality... I wouldn't make software that bad even if I were doing it for free.
But! SuperMemo does have things over Mnemosyne, and that's why I keep using it. (Well, that, and because Mnemosyne can't import my SuperMemo collection.) In particular, this template I have for Japanese kanji flash cards would be harder to do in Mnemosyne. I don't think it has a real templating facility like SuperMemo's. But I imagine most potential users won't need a function like that. - Kef 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| shallom777 Groupie United States Joined 6300 days ago 42 posts - 43 votes Studies: Spanish, French | Message 10 of 60 21 October 2007 at 11:02am | IP Logged | ||
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If anyone is learning Spanish there is a great site called wordsgalore.com that has a free program that is the best I have ever used. It has flashcards with sound. You can also send a email to Scott, the site owner, and ask for other language files (he just sent me a file for Chinese). There are a few bugs, but I can't complain since it's free.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6701 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 11 of 60 21 October 2007 at 12:32pm | IP Logged | ||
Very good if you learn English as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6498 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 12 of 60 21 October 2007 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, it doesn't say it uses spaced repetition, and you can create flash cards with sound clips in both SuperMemo and Mnemosyne anyway. (It might be easier to do that in SuperMemo, though.) So I wouldn't use it.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6701 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 13 of 60 22 October 2007 at 11:30am | IP Logged | ||
Wordsgalore is free and it has the best features to learn vocabulary. Thanks to shallom777. 1-You have 8500 most frequent words (or more) with the sounds. You don't need to do that yourself. You save hundreds of hours. 2-You can play the words in random order with the sound and it's meaning. You can choose how many times you want every word repeat (with sound, target writing language and meaning) and how long between every repetition. 3-You can exclude known words and you can work with them with other schedule. As far as I know Supermemo and Mnemosyne don't have this features or, at least, the most important, the second. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| furrykef Senior Member United States furrykef.com/ Joined 6498 days ago 681 posts - 862 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, Latin, Italian | Message 14 of 60 22 October 2007 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mnemosyne is also free, and it has spaced repetition. If the system in question doesn't have spaced repetition, I don't care what else it has; I don't think it's worth considering. The feature is that important to me.
I'm not sure I understand what the second feature is yet, let alone why it's particularly important. - Kef 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6935 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 60 23 October 2007 at 3:54am | IP Logged | ||
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If I read the post correctly, the second feature is "randomness", presenting the cards from your "box" in a random manner. That could be useful if one tends to memorize the order instead of the actual meaning of the words (imagine studying vocabulary back in the old days, high school, a list of twenty words: "Oh yes... this must be... 'highway', I know that came after 'lorry' in the text"). Sound versus writing could be good to some extent. However, being able to choose how many times the word should be repeated (in a row, or in the "box"?) also takes some of the "spaced repetition" out of it. In my opinion. If you know it you know it, and if not, the word will appear again.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6701 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 16 of 60 23 October 2007 at 1:59pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, I agree with you. It seems this software uses some kind of spaced repetition. Maybe I will ask them. In fact I use some spaced repetition: 1-1-1-1 (1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month) Sometimes I review three times every day for three days and then after one week and one month. The exceptional feature is the randomness, the sound repetition in a row. If I use 8 or 10 repetitions per word I can use mnemonics on the go with difficult words and meaning visualization. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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