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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6550 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 25 of 108 26 January 2008 at 11:51pm | IP Logged |
mattsfk wrote:
I'm not sure if this was your attempt at tongue-in-cheek, but making yourself out to be an authority on Vietnamese cuisine, and implying that dogs are a common meat, is as much a cheap shot as it is inaccurate. |
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Looks pretty common to me. Mmmm... dog meat.
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| mattsfk Triglot Newbie Australia twitter.com/mattsfkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6221 days ago 16 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Vietnamese, English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Danish, German
| Message 26 of 108 27 January 2008 at 12:41am | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
Looks pretty common to me. Mmmm... dog meat. |
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Have you ever lived or spent time in Vietnam?
That article is a particular insight/feature into a phenomenon that, while existing in Vietnam, is not widespread. I'd urge you not
to believe everything you read, even if it was on the BBC news site. Let's not ignore that it was written by the ever-roving
correspondent Clare Arthurs, who despite her majors in History and Political Science, must surely be a valid voice on the culinary
habits of the Vietnamese, right?
The majority of the Vietnamese have never eaten even dog meat - it is just not mainstream enough, and nor is it favorably looked
upon by scores of Vietnamese.
I know I am veering off topic and possibly overreacting, but it just grates me when people jump to inaccurate stereotypes and/or jest
at the expense of a group of people. It displays a lack of cultural sensitivity which I think is unacceptable in a language-learning
realm, such as this.
Matt
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6550 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 27 of 108 27 January 2008 at 1:33am | IP Logged |
I've never been to Vietnam, but I have met many Vietnamese here in the US. Their descriptions of their country, and their friendliness makes me want to learn the language, and go there.
Although I really like dogs (as pets:)), and couldn't bring my self to eat one, it doesn't really bother me that others eat them. I was in Sakon Nakhon (Thailand) in October, and my girlfriend asked if I'd like to visit the dog (meat) market. I said only if I can go around asking people to please not eat dog meat. She looked really nervous, and decided we better not go there. It seems that the people who eat the dogs aren't embarassed about it. And Thais who don't eat dogs don't give the dog-eaters a hard time. Foreigners seem to want to give them a hard time, but I wonder if they care? Anyway, this seems pretty important to you, so I apologize if I hurt your feelings.
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| mattsfk Triglot Newbie Australia twitter.com/mattsfkRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6221 days ago 16 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Vietnamese, English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Danish, German
| Message 28 of 108 27 January 2008 at 6:14am | IP Logged |
That's okay leosmith! I was just really highly strung before so I guess I tend to over analyse.
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| bluecollar Groupie United States Joined 6154 days ago 43 posts - 48 votes
| Message 29 of 108 27 January 2008 at 10:28am | IP Logged |
Wendy Vo is Vietnamese American.Her English must be good except for the fact that she does not know the word larkspur.I believe most Americans,adults included,don't know that word either.Other than that,she is absolutely fluent.
We need native speakers of Spanish,Mandarin Chinese,French,Japanese,Hindi,Arabic,Russian,Portuguese to judge her accent.Please help.
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| ilanbg Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6410 days ago 166 posts - 189 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (classical), Persian
| Message 30 of 108 27 January 2008 at 12:44pm | IP Logged |
I've already posted about her French accent. It was passible, but not very good.
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| bluecollar Groupie United States Joined 6154 days ago 43 posts - 48 votes
| Message 31 of 108 27 January 2008 at 12:51pm | IP Logged |
Thanks,Ilanbg
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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6703 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 32 of 108 28 January 2008 at 7:06am | IP Logged |
mattsfk wrote:
Iversen wrote:
In French she was not quite sure what kind of meat she had eaten, but in the Vietnamese cuisine that can be a real problem - it can be anything from prawns to dogs.
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I'm not sure if this was your attempt at tongue-in-cheek, but making yourself out to be an authority on Vietnamese cuisine, and implying that dogs are a common meat, is as much a cheap shot as it is inaccurate.
Also, what does larkspurs growing in Vietnam have to do with anything? This girl was born in Charlotte, NC., USA. |
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The remark about dogs is not a joke, - it is a fact that dog is served in restaurants in Vietnam. I have seen the restaurants myself and I have first hand reports from people who tried that food item. But it may be frowned upon and be on its way out, just like horse meat where I live. However I don't claim to be an authority on any kind of food just because I have seen people eating it.
The objection to my remark about larkspur is valid insofar that I had overlooked that she didn't live in Vietnam. Still, she did hesitate at this word (and quite frankly I don't blame her).
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