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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 1 of 13 08 February 2008 at 10:17am | IP Logged | |||||
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I've previously tried Listening-Reading, and found that I could only manage a few hours per day. Given that it's nearly the weekend (and one where I'm not booked solid!), I'll have significantly more time available for the next couple of days.
One thing that I've liked doing for a few languages is to listen to them in the background while I do other things, via native sources like online radio stations. Years ago, I did this for Japanese (with mixed results - after a few hours, I could easily distinguish Tokyo and Osaka accents, but I never tried shadowing, and later did some active production with other courses, like Pimsleur, with the end result that my Japanese is 'funny sounding', according to honest native speakers). Likewise, I've listened in the background a lot with Dutch - and, unlike Japanese, I found it significantly improved my comprehension. What I'm wondering is the impact of this type of listening (in the background, without knowing what a large percentage of the words mean, and with no transcripts in any language), during the parts of the day when I'm not Listening-Reading, will have on the work-in-progress in my head from Listening-Reading. Would it be neutral, mildly beneficial, or strongly detrimental? Has anyone tried it, or known anyone who has? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| atamagaii Senior Member Anguilla Joined 6204 days ago 181 posts - 195 votes Speaks: Apache* | Message 2 of 13 08 February 2008 at 10:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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When you alredy understand, it's very beneficial.
If you don't, I've no idea, though I think it might be. I sometimes listen to a completely new language just for fun. It's something like music for me. If I like the speaker, I can do it for hours. Just now I'm listening to Chinese. Edited by atamagaii on 08 February 2008 at 10:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 3 of 13 08 February 2008 at 11:03am | IP Logged | |||||
Ok; I'll give it a try, then.
Same here, except that I'm not currently listening to Chinese. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| rob Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6163 days ago 287 posts - 288 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 4 of 13 08 February 2008 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
I'm not so sure. I've tried listening in this fashion in the past, and at times, it was just as beneficial as listening to white noise. However, this is only the case when, as you say, you don't know a large percentage of the words. If you know some words, even like 20%, then this can help cement those words that you do know. Plus, if you have prior knowledge, I think you're more likely to pick up on words which are repeated frequently - and if you don't know what they mean, you will probably be more likely to look up what that word means. I think this kind of input can be complimentary to comprehensible input. It is very often the case that you will learn a phrase or saying, then suddenly you hear that everywhere. Other than that, aside from getting used to the intonation and seeing if you can pick up phrases from prior knowledge of other languages, I don't think it will be immensely helpful in and of itself. That being said, I certainly would do it myself. After all, it's fun to listen to something you don't understand and think that soon enough, you will :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 5 of 13 08 February 2008 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well - I've used this kind of listening extensively, and I have a reasonable idea of what it can and can't do in general -- I agree with you that it's complementary to (more) comprehensible input. What I wanted to know was whether it was likely to interfere with fairly intensive Listening-Reading at the earliest stages.
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| Tatoeba Groupie United States Joined 6147 days ago 69 posts - 70 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Danish, French | Message 6 of 13 08 February 2008 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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well if anything, It will make your accent alot better once you actually start learning lol
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| rob Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6163 days ago 287 posts - 288 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Norwegian, Mandarin | Message 7 of 13 09 February 2008 at 2:30am | IP Logged | |||||
Ah, I see. In that case, no, I don't believe it will interfere with L-R-ing. I don't think it could do any harm at any point... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ziedariana Tetraglot Newbie United States Joined 6195 days ago 19 posts - 28 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Written)*, French, Italian Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 13 09 February 2008 at 6:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
It should be beneficial. It's picked up by the unconscious. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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