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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6707 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 42 16 December 2008 at 6:42pm | IP Logged |
There is also a weekly news broadcast in Latin from Finland.
I personally don't find the Romansch dialects quite as close to Latin as Sardic, - though it has to be said that I haven't yet read a complete grammar for this illdefined bundle of dialects (or languages). But I have a few short books in some of their variants in my possession, and I also have read more on the internet some time ago when we had a thread about that theme, so I'm not just guessing..
Their most prominent trait right now is that they have been through some phonological changes at an early time that have given them a very marked preference for diphtongs instead of single vowels. They belong historically to a group of Northern Italian dialects (or whatever it is) that you rarely hear or read nowadays, but I have read through some of the older documents from that area (including some old documents in Veneto). However in Italy there has clearly been a development towards uniform standard Italian, and Romantsch is so to say the leftovers from this process.
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| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6152 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 10 of 42 18 December 2008 at 1:06am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
There is also a weekly news broadcast in Latin from Finland.
I personally don't find the Romansch dialects quite as close to Latin as Sardic, - though it has to be said that I haven't yet read a complete grammar for this illdefined bundle of dialects (or languages). But I have a few short books in some of their variants in my possession, and I also have read more on the internet some time ago when we had a thread about that theme, so I'm not just guessing..
Their most prominent trait right now is that they have been through some phonological changes at an early time that have given them a very marked preference for diphtongs instead of single vowels. They belong historically to a group of Northern Italian dialects (or whatever it is) that you rarely hear or read nowadays, but I have read through some of the older documents from that area (including some old documents in Veneto). However in Italy there has clearly been a development towards uniform standard Italian, and Romantsch is so to say the leftovers from this process.
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ScorpioMartianus.com is a Latin podcast with news in Latin, and IMO, he does better than the Nuntii Latini announcers in pronunciation. ;p The site is down currently but he has some YouTube clips
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| LittleKey Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5956 days ago 146 posts - 153 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Japanese
| Message 11 of 42 09 January 2009 at 12:22am | IP Logged |
I would say Italian. And besides, it has the word Latin in it.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6276 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 12 of 42 18 January 2009 at 2:07pm | IP Logged |
I have only dabbled in Latin, but I would say Italian is closest (another language I have dabbled in).
Sardinian may be closer but I have no direct knowledge of it at all. Sardinian was already unintelligible to Tuscany Italian speakers in Dante's time, it seems.
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| Theodisce Octoglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5890 days ago 127 posts - 167 votes Speaks: Polish*, Latin, Ancient Greek, Russian, Czech, French, English, German Studies: Italian, Spanish, Slovak, Ukrainian, Serbo-Croatian, Greek, Portuguese
| Message 13 of 42 19 January 2009 at 9:55am | IP Logged |
From the geographical point of view, Italian is spoken in what was once a core of Roman Empire, so we could assume, that Italian has perserved Latin features at the highest degree. Noun derivation seems to be very simple in many cases, for example you just substitute Latin ending -us for -o when dealing with masculine nouns. Indeed, Italian nouns seem to be the most conservative in Romance family, while verb system resembles rather French than Latin.
Edited by Theodisce on 19 January 2009 at 9:57am
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6276 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 14 of 42 20 January 2009 at 11:32am | IP Logged |
Latin as spoken outside Italy was affected by the languages of the "barbarian" tribes, even when it replaced them. The extent to which this happened is unclear, however, because few records of these other languages remain.
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| Sabato Pentaglot Newbie Brazil Joined 6644 days ago 7 posts - 7 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, English, Spanish, Italian Studies: German, Russian
| Message 16 of 42 24 January 2009 at 9:50pm | IP Logged |
Theodisce wrote:
I'd like also to ask native Romance speakres, if they can undestand Latin withouth studying it. |
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No, not really. Obviously I can pick up a few words here and there, but usually it is not enough even to make out the meaning of a single sentence, much less an entire paragraph.
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