unzum Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom soyouwanttolearnalan Joined 6914 days ago 371 posts - 478 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Mandarin
| Message 1 of 6 28 December 2008 at 7:27pm | IP Logged |
Thought I'd share some Japanese learning videos that haven't been mentioned on this forum yet.
Irasshai is a distance learning video course that Georgia Public Broadcast have kindly made freely available over the internet. There are two levels, the 1st has 73 videos, the 2nd 63 and each video is about 30 mins long. There are also online activites and cultural information to accompany each video. Hiragana & katakana and basic kanji are also covered.
I kind-of vary between liking this series and disliking it. On the one side it moves pretty slowly, the teacher isn't a native speaker (although his pronunciation isn't bad) and I'm not sure if it teaches past the polite forms.
On the other side the teacher is really talented, funny and engaging, and I think it's a nice, non-threatening way to introduce new learners to Japanese.
I'd be curious to see what everyone else thinks about it, as I haven't been able to find much about it on the internet.
Then there's Minna which is a collection of 138 videos for practising and improving your listening. There are 3 levels; intermediate, advanced & superior. Each video has Yoshimi Iwasaki reading out a short script (mainly news items), with gap-filling exercises, quizzes and pre-video tasks.
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6085 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 2 of 6 29 December 2008 at 3:19am | IP Logged |
みんなさんこんにちは
I tried Minna, intermediate level for about 15 minutes. I consider myself an intermediate but only in terms of vocabulary. I have a deficit when it comes to listening because I'm self-taught and I don't hear Japanese often enough -- call it an environmental issue!
Basically the site tells me that I need to go practice! I plan to use the transcripts for reading practice since this is exactly where I am in terms of my reading level. I recognize every kanji and every bit of grammar out of what I've read so far. Listening level? -- not quite. I still have a ways to go. I was able to understand it completely only when I read the transcript over a couple of times. There's an echo in most of the ones below #30 that make listening that much harder.
I tried the Pre-Quiz work and got two pop-ups for Egypt tours. I guess the riddle has something to do with Egypt. I didn't stick around for the quiz to find out. I think I'll go back in a couple of months. I think they'll benefit more after I've improved my comprehension.
I need a couple of weeks of total immersion. Unfortunately due to my circumstances that probably won't happen so my listening level will remain below my reading level until I reach advanced. I'll get there some way, some how!
Thanks unzum! You've recommended many good sites in the past and I plan to use this one to supplement my self-study. arigato! (*^-^*)
Edited by Sunja on 29 December 2008 at 3:27am
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Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6085 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin
| Message 3 of 6 29 December 2008 at 4:20am | IP Logged |
I spent about 10 minutes with Irasshai.
unzum wrote:
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I agree.
If upper beginners are pressed for time like I am, they can skip to Japanese II, Review from JPN1 - Review 2. You can watch the actor pantomiming "eat" and "work". It packs more words in than by watching each individual lesson, and he's funny to watch.
Individual lessons: Sooo much time lost watching them act!
I personally plan to go back to the last few lessons. I found the one for me. It's #62. They pantomime and draw it out to such an extent that I'm not sure I'm learning enough Japanese. It's not exactly natural-sounding. But it's entertaining enough. And for me, anything is good! I'm more worried about maximizing my time. I think intermediate learners like myself might get more out of movies and Japanese TV series (with transcript) and that this might be a nice introduction for beginners...
A word about the use of non-native speakers. I personally don't need to see a non-native speak Japanese to make me feel, "yes, I can!". I really prefer native speakers since it's my goal to sound like them. I came across beginning Italian lessons that used an intermediate learner to assist with the lessons and I know they do this for encouragement. I'm not able to weed out the accent well enough and it gets in my way. Since many languages are sooooo dependent on proper pronunciation for correctness, I'd think that the teachers would want to keep it simple, slow, straightforward; without having to enlist the help of a bunch of non-native "talent" ;-)
Edited by Sunja on 29 December 2008 at 4:41am
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FrancescoP Octoglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5950 days ago 169 posts - 258 votes Speaks: Italian*, French, English, German, Latin, Ancient Greek, Russian, Norwegian Studies: Georgian, Japanese, Croatian, Greek
| Message 4 of 6 29 December 2008 at 4:39am | IP Logged |
Gotta love the guy on Irasshai. Pretty basic stuff, but nice teacher. He looks like he's half Japanese and half American, doesn't he? Thank you for sharing this excellent material.
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vaasha Tetraglot Newbie Czech Republic lelaon.com Joined 5786 days ago 13 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, Norwegian, Finnish Studies: Welsh
| Message 5 of 6 28 January 2009 at 5:55am | IP Logged |
I must agree the Tim Cook from Irasshai is very good actor. He also has some brilliant skills as a teacher. I as a biginner learned a lot in first two lessons and can make very simple introduction in Japanese, however I ceased to continue, because I'd be learning too many languages.
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Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6034 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds
| Message 6 of 6 28 January 2009 at 12:58pm | IP Logged |
But but.... It is so tiny!
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