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mick33
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 Message 73 of 223
29 March 2009 at 10:05am | IP Logged 
This last week hasn't been as good for my language studies as I had hoped. There are a few reasons for this; procrastination, unforeseen changes in plans, and I think I actually do better at studying my languages when I'm in school, since last week was my spring break I had too much spare time and failed to use it well. I focused on Finnish and Afrikaans grammar and Spanish was often left out, though I did find a good book on Spanish grammar at the library. I haven't read very much of this book yet, but it looks like I will get a concise explanation of basic grammar rather than the piecemeal approach.

mick33 wrote:
Now that I'm done complaining, I also wrote my first paper in my Spanish class. I hope I get good marks on it, but still, I need to learn how to use "ir" correctly. Since the paper only had to be 3 paragraphs, I will post a copy of it here and hopefully review it to correct any errors, just for my personal benefit.

¡Hola! Me llamo Mick. Soy de Victorville, California. Yo tengo treinta y tres años y soy rubio, alto, delgado y simpatico. Yo soy estudiante a Pierce College y proximó trimestre tomo tres clases, matemáticas, sexualidad humano y español. Sólo tengo cuatro hermanos menores, una hermana y tres hermanos. Mi hermano Júan es de San Antonio, Tejas. Tiene treinta y uno y es pelirrojo, tranquilo, fuerte y muy inteligente. Él es un estudiante a Universidad Indiana, y estudia optometría.   

                       Vivo en Lakewood, Washington. Me especialización en universidad es psicología. Yo qiuero aprender historia y lenguas extranjeras. Pienso historia y lenguas extranjeras es interesante . No me gusta la clase de matemáticas, creo matemáticas es muy difícil. Me gusta comer pollo y espaguetis y bebo el jugo de naranja o leche. Mi amigo Mateo vive en Spanaway y él es estudiante a Pierce College tambien. Él tiene vientiséis anos y es bajo, moreno, gordo y trabajador. Mateo gusta tomar películas y televisión.

                       En los ratos libres, me gusta mucho escuchar y bailar la música y leo libros. Yo juego baloncesto, fútbol, y fútbol americano. Pero tambien paseo en bicicleta. Mi familia y yo tomamos televisión y visitamos los parientes. Yo no decido dónde quiero ir en el verano de 2009, pero deseo viajar mi hermano Júan en Indiana.

I may post a summarized English translation in another post, but now I want to study Finnish.

Mick
I won't provide an English translation of the brief paper I wrote for my Spanish class right now, but I did get the paper back and somewhat surprisingly I got 45 points out of a possible 50 for a score of 90% and I would like to make some corrections to it. I will post the corrections from my teacher one paragraph at a time with the corrected words in bold type.

mick33 wrote:
¡Hola! Me llamo Mick. Soy de Victorville, California. Yo tengo treinta y tres años y soy rubio, alto, delgado y simpático. Yo soy estudiante en Pierce College y proximó trimestre tomo tres clases, matemáticas, sexualidad humana y español. Sólo tengo cuatro hermanos menores, una hermana y tres hermanos. Mi hermano Júan es de San Antonio, Tejas. Tiene treinta y uno y es pelirrojo, tranquilo, fuerte y muy inteligente. Él es un estudiante en Universidad Indiana, estudia optometría.
This paragraph isn't too bad, two spelling mistakes and I forgot the correct usage of "en" and "a".

mick33 wrote:
Vivo en Lakewood, Washington. Mi especialización en universidad es psicología. Yo quiero aprender historia y lenguas extranjeras. Pienso historia y lenguas extranjeras son interesantes. No me gusta la clase de matemáticas, creo matemáticas es muy difícil. Me gusta comer pollo y espaguetis y bebo el jugo de naranja o leche. Mi amigo Mateo vive en Spanaway y él es estudiante en Pierce College tambien. Él tiene vientiséis anos y es bajo, moreno, gordo y trabajador. Mateo le gusta mirar películas y televisión.
There are more mistakes in the second paragraph, but apparently nothing the teacher deemed to be serious errors.

mick33 wrote:
En los ratos libres, me gusta mucho escuchar y bailar la música y leo libros. Yo juego al baloncesto, fútbol, y fútbol americano. Pero tambien paseo en bicicleta. Mi familia y yo miramos televisión y visitamos a los parientes. Yo no decido dónde quiero ir en el verano de 2009, pero deseo viajar a visitar a mi hermano Júan en Indiana.


Spring quarter begins Monday and my schedule is different, my first class is at 11:00 am which will give me two hours in the morning for studying languages.

Mick



Edited by mick33 on 29 March 2009 at 6:21pm
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 74 of 223
29 March 2009 at 2:50pm | IP Logged 
congratulations you had a very good grade for this essay!!!!! Here all the work is out of a possible 20, but seldom you have 90%, but for exapmle 70%. The belgian teachers are veyr strict I think.

there are two general things, which i've noticed in your essay, which you can make better I will explain you (sorry if you understood already):

Mateo le gusta mirar: it's different that in our languages, because with gustar, the person who like the thing isn't the subject but the objetc. You must change the verb for the thing also, not for the person, i give you an exapmle:

Me gusta el chocolate
Me gustan chocolates
No me gustan tripas
No me gusta el invierno

the other thing, « Pienso historia y lenguas extranjeras son interesantes.» the adjective has to match, which in English isn't necessary. this if for the m/f/pl

el pájaro es pequeño
los pájaros son pequenõs
la silla es roja
las sillas son rojas


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mick33
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 Message 75 of 223
29 March 2009 at 6:16pm | IP Logged 
Thank you for the advice, Jar-ptitsa. I do know the things you mentioned, but I don't always remember them. I will continue making improvements and additions to the paper to get more practice writing in Spanish as I learn more vocabulary and grammar.

Edited by mick33 on 29 March 2009 at 6:21pm
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 76 of 223
29 March 2009 at 10:24pm | IP Logged 
Graag gedaan :-) als je er zin in hebt kun je me ook verteln waar ik fouten maak. dat is erg handig om erachter te komen (van iemand die welwillend is natuurlijk).
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mick33
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 Message 77 of 223
31 March 2009 at 2:30am | IP Logged 
mick33 wrote:
Welcome to my TAC log. I know I'm a month late, but I thought the new year would be a good time to start this. This log will definitely be about the following languages: Afrikaans and Spanish, and later on in the year I may tackle Dutch, and then flirt with German, French and a maybe a few more languages, I'll see what happens. I intend to post primarily in English at first, and then after a few weeks I will also add Afrikaans and Spanish to the posts(with translations to English for those who do not know Afrikaans or Spanish). I am also a college student and will be taking Human Anatomy, Sociology, and Spanish this quarter, thus I subtitled this log "My poor overwhelmed brain". I plan to post new entries three times a week, maybe more often, although I only guarantee three times a week. I've never tried seriously studying two, or more, languages before this; so I hope to get some encouragement, and perhaps advice, for this project.
It's been almost four months since I began TAC and I reckon it's time to assess my progress, and perhaps revise my original goals. I had initially thought I would study Spanish and Afrikaans, and maybe Dutch, German and French, but the reality is that I am now studying Spanish, Afrikaans, Finnish and occasionally Dutch. German and French will have to wait for next year and most likely I will also add Italian, but that's 8 months away. Keeping this log has been helpful, because it provides a way to record what I'm actually doing, but I didn't always stick to my schedule and most often the reason was procrastination, not school work. I sometimes allowed my self to become distracted by other intriguing languages; some like German, Limburgish and Danish are either on my hit list or are closely related to languages I'm currently studying and thus it make sense to look at them briefly, others like Inuktitut (which I didn't mention in this log) or Hungarian (very distantly related to Finnish) are not closely related and fascinating though they undoubtedly are, these detours took up valuable study time.

So what do I need to work on? I need to follow my schedule and study plan, something which should be easier now that my first class is at 11 insted of 10. The desire for wanderlust must be kept in check, I simply must remember that Inuktitut, Hungarian, Georgian and Chinese aren't any more intriguing than Afrikaans, Spanish and Finnish. I will probably do another language studies assessment in June, right now I've got to get something to eat and then get some more studying done.

Mick

Edited by mick33 on 01 April 2009 at 11:15pm
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mick33
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 Message 78 of 223
31 March 2009 at 2:33am | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Graag gedaan :-) als je er zin in hebt kun je me ook verteln waar ik fouten maak. dat is erg handig om erachter te komen (van iemand die welwillend is natuurlijk).
Ek sal graag jou foute korrek, wanneer ek het tyd om dit te doen.

Edited by mick33 on 31 March 2009 at 3:33am
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Jar-ptitsa
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 Message 79 of 223
31 March 2009 at 2:53am | IP Logged 
mick33 wrote:
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Graag gedaan :-) als je er zin in hebt kun je me ook verteln waar ik fouten maak. dat is erg handig om erachter te komen (van iemand die welwillend is natuurlijk).
Ek sal graag jy fouts korrek, wanneer ek kan die tyd om dit te doen maak.


Dankjewel. Maar ik begrijp dat je wenig tijd heb. Ik heb ook vaak erg wenig tijd.
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mick33
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 Message 80 of 223
04 April 2009 at 5:25am | IP Logged 
This week hasn't been as bad as last week was for language studies, but I've nearly gotten off track. For example, a few weeks ago I found what looked like an interesting paper on the human brain written in Afrikaans and I intended to read it but haven't yet and in fact, Afrikaans has been getting less attention of late, which is inexcusable if I wish to continue making progress. It's weird that I looked again at my original goals a couple of days ago but this week has been crazier than I expected; next week will be better as I adjust to my new schedule at school and the work required in my classes. I also need to learn more Finnish words along with the grammatical stuff I'm learning so I can actually read, and hopefully write something in the language; the grammar of Finnish is important, something I'm reminded of whenever I attempt to read and understand anything written in Finnish. I just need to find the best way to balance learning grammar and learning vocabulary. This leaves Spanish, I need to review stem-changing verbs and vocabulary as I would like to take my next test in my Spanish class on Monday or Wednesday.
   
Mick



Edited by mick33 on 06 April 2009 at 8:26pm


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