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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6912 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 25 of 34 23 March 2009 at 5:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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I found all of the "Accent formation" lectures very interesting, and I enjoyed the latest razor analogy a lot.
As for the problems with Youtube, I have not had any problems with your clips. In the rare cases where other ones have been "unavailable" (despite being viewed by online friends at the same time), I have simply reloaded the page with great success. Jeff Lindqvist 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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Thank you for letting me know that, Mr. Lindquist; unfortunately, I myself am no longer able to view my own videos once they are posted - all I ever get is a black screen with the words "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
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Your video lectures are very good. Thanks.
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Thank you for the great videos
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5384 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 29 of 34 07 March 2010 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Claiming that having a perfect or near-perfect accent is unnecessary or over-rated would
be the same as stating that writing a language like a native or in a natural way is over- rated. Just what exactly is the goal of the learner if learning to use the language -- to write it and to speak it, that is -- like natives is not important? If you are just learning as a hobby, that's fine, but if you are any serious about a language, then you will care as much about writing it properly as you will about speaking it properly. The fact that pronunciation is harder to grasp does not make it less essential. Edited by Arekkusu on 07 March 2010 at 5:35pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
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Arekkuse: pronunciation is well important, but it's not the same thing as an accent.
Anyway, how important is it to reach a 'native' accent? Having lived away from my native land and in various countries my whole life, I don't have a 'perfect' accent in any language, though I claim to speak 3 fluently. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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Which highlights one of the less mentioned causes of foreign accents: the lack of a single, well-defined, local linguistic influence. Learning a language from people of various accents, and hearing various accents on TV and on the radio makes it even harder to acquire an accent natives will consider to be native-like. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5559 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 32 of 34 12 March 2010 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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True enough, you can end up with a hotchpotch of different accents if you're none too careful. The brain just treats it all like a big Pic'n'Mix and selects whatever it likes and feels comforable with. That's why it's best to use these type of activities to enrich your listening skills and understanding, and practise speaking more consistently with the real locals in an immersion environment instead.
One thing I've noticed again and again is that if you speak with a strong accent in a target language, native speakers unaccustomed to that part of the country are far more likely to mistake you for a fluent native speaker. I remember chatting with a Swedish guy in Stockholm who had an amazing Mancunian accent, and another who lived for a year in Mississippi and sounded like the real deal. As I'm currently learning German, maybe I should start speaking Kölsch, or even Hessisch God forbid? :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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