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| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6033 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes  5 sounds | Message 9 of 70 09 April 2009 at 9:38pm | IP Logged | ||
Yea, I agree. Knowing 1000 words is still pretty beginner-ish, though it is enough to hold a basic conversion. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Toufik18 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Algeria Joined 5743 days ago 188 posts - 202 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (classical)*, French, English | Message 10 of 70 09 April 2009 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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Humm...I see, so I gess i'll have to learn at least 3000 active word to reach a good level in Spanish huh..? I am going to do it ;)
If you guys have a list of Spanish useful words, it'd be great to share it with me to make my vocabulary more and more useful. Thanx for everyone who has replied to me ;) Seeya 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| rlf1810 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6339 days ago 122 posts - 173 votes Speaks: English*, German, Slovak | Message 11 of 70 13 April 2009 at 9:52am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello,
Here is the way I count how many words are necessary for each level of the CEF. They simply double with each level. A1 - 500 words A2 - 1000 words B1 - 2000 words B2 - 4000 words C1 - 8000 words C2 - 16000 words It's a rough guide to be sure but still reasonably accurate I think. -Robert 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| irrationale Tetraglot Senior Member China Joined 6049 days ago 669 posts - 1023 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Tagalog Studies: Ancient Greek, Japanese | Message 12 of 70 13 April 2009 at 11:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, 1500 (of the most common words you will use) is a solid amount for a basic convo. Edited by irrationale on 13 April 2009 at 11:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Toufik18 Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Algeria Joined 5743 days ago 188 posts - 202 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)*, Arabic (classical)*, French, English | Message 13 of 70 13 April 2009 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | ||
That's what Im talking about ! So to have a good vocab you need to know about 4000 words. It doesn't seem too much Thanx indeed for the great help --------------------- @ Robert Thanx man and I appreciate your reply ,) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Whiskeyjack Newbie Canada Joined 5731 days ago 36 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish, Spanish, Russian | Message 14 of 70 13 April 2009 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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at 3,000 to 4,000 words do you think a person would begin reaching the boundaries of fluency?
im somewhere near 2,000 words in my finnish studies and will be moving on more seriously to russian after 3,500 words Edited by Whiskeyjack on 13 April 2009 at 3:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| josht Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6445 days ago 635 posts - 857 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Dutch | Message 15 of 70 13 April 2009 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | ||
No, I don't. I've never done a count of how many German words I know, but I'd be willing to wager that it's far more than 4,000, and I still very often have to reach for the dictionary. In my opinion, most of the people who think you only need 2-3,000 words to be "fluent" are being far too conservative, perhaps because they don't want to scare off potential language learners by, right out of the gate, saying that you'll need 10,000 or 15,000 (or some other number higher than 2,000) words. Perhaps it's also just a case of humans being lazy. 2,000 is a nice, relatively small number of words, and people like the idea of learning 2,000 words and being able to get by just fine in the language. The only problem is that it's not going to happen. :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| leonidus Triglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 6325 days ago 113 posts - 123 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, French Studies: German, Mandarin | Message 16 of 70 13 April 2009 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you want to discuss things on the surface, 4000 words could be enough, but as soon as you go into details, you'll be lacking words immensely. A native speaker wouldn't know that you don't have a clue what this particular word means. There are also set expressions and idioms which native speakers take for granted and you may find difficult to grasp in natural speech. But yeah, if your 4000 words are your active vocubulary and you can use them all with ease in speech, then that's a very solid ground. You'd be asking about other words here and there, but that won't interfere with your general understanding, unless the subject gets too specific and detailed.
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