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Aquila
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 Message 41 of 51
03 December 2009 at 5:52pm | IP Logged 
mick33 wrote:
6. Setting goals that are too general. The best example is my original goal for Afrikaans; to become completely fluent in 6 months. This did not happen because I did not have a plan for how to achieve fluency nor did I have a definition of fluency.


Ok, in 6 months is a bit fast and I think you're right with this point, but isn't become fluent a good long term goal?
How do you set you goals? And how do you make them more specific?

Edited by Aquila on 03 December 2009 at 5:52pm
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datsunking1
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 Message 42 of 51
03 December 2009 at 6:26pm | IP Logged 
Cordelia, I completely agree with number 5. lol I spend WAY too much buying materials. If I got through everything that I've bought I would have a very very good grounding in Spanish, German, French, Japanese (basics), and Portguese.

Time to actually go through them :D
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Dainty
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 Message 43 of 51
03 December 2009 at 6:30pm | IP Logged 
I'm reading through the thread and thinking, "guilty, guilty, guilty..." but hey, I'm here to learn!

Kubelek wrote:
For me that must be spending half of my daily hour devoted to languages reading this forum instead of actually studying.

But this is going to change! (pre-TAC mood)


Oh yes. I currently require myself to do at least 10 minutes of studying before coming to this site every time I do. That probably doesn't sound like much, but I'm working at it!


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MäcØSŸ
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 Message 44 of 51
03 December 2009 at 9:42pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:

5) Score fixation You want to measure your progress, but because "language ability" is a very hard thing to
measure, you end up going down an artificial path simply to "score". I've tended to avoid this in language, but in
essays... I usually start by writing a couple of hundred words of waffle just to get my word-count up. Guilty.


I do that all the time. Until some months ago I even measured my progress every week (when it’s obvious that there
can’t be any visible improvement in such a short time).
Unfortunately I really love describing things with numbers.
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mick33
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 Message 45 of 51
04 December 2009 at 4:01am | IP Logged 
Aquila wrote:
mick33 wrote:
6. Setting goals that are too general. The best example is my original goal for Afrikaans; to become completely fluent in 6 months. This did not happen because I did not have a plan for how to achieve fluency nor did I have a definition of fluency.


Ok, in 6 months is a bit fast and I think you're right with this point, but isn't become fluent a good long term goal?
How do you set you goals? And how do you make them more specific?
Yes, I agree that becoming fluent is a good long term goal. What I've learned is to decide exactly why I want to learn a certain language and then how well I wish to learn it. That is to say, "Do I want to learn 1,000 words or 10,000 words?" Some other questions I might ask myself are, "Do I want to be able to read literature and scientific journals or would I rather read newspapers and comic books?" and "Do I want to give lectures to university students, make small talk on the street or maybe I'd like to do both?". Asking myself these types of questions and then determining the answers is what helps me to set specific goals.
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genini1
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 Message 46 of 51
07 December 2009 at 6:56pm | IP Logged 
Dainty wrote:
I'm reading through the thread and thinking, "guilty, guilty, guilty..." but hey, I'm here to learn!

Kubelek wrote:
For me that must be spending half of my daily hour devoted to languages reading this forum instead of actually studying.

But this is going to change! (pre-TAC mood)


Oh yes. I currently require myself to do at least 10 minutes of studying before coming to this site every time I do. That probably doesn't sound like much, but I'm working at it!


Even 10 minutes of studying if it happens every day can be worth a lot, I seem to remember a study about how the first 15 minutes of a study session were the most profitable for lack of a better term and how studying for 15 minutes every hour for 4 hours was better then studying for an hour straight.
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cordelia0507
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 Message 47 of 51
07 December 2009 at 7:01pm | IP Logged 
genini1 wrote:
Even 10 minutes of studying if it happens every day can be worth a lot, I seem to remember a study about how the first 15 minutes of a study session were the most profitable for lack of a better term and how studying for 15 minutes every hour for 4 hours was better then studying for an hour straight.


THis is an encouraging message.

One of my mistakes is to think that unless I have the time and mental energy for at least 1 hours studying there is no point...

I've taken some time off work but I know that once I get back to work I will be back in a situation where I am physically and mentally "spent" by the time I get back home at 8 or so in the evening...

Very discouraging prospect. Any tips for handling this would be appreciated.
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The Real CZ
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 Message 48 of 51
07 December 2009 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was "let's do everything at once." Seeing as I didn't want to spend hours at a time studying, I never did study. Now I break up my studying into ten to fifteen minute sessions, usually taking a five to ten minute break and switching to something else.


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